Ranking the Panthers Most Effective Runners

[Udogg]

Our run blocking is so bad right now it is very hard to tell who is the most effective.  That being said I still think Williams > Stewart at this time.  May change but as far as I can tell this is the case this moment.

[Udogg]

Stewart has the superior hands. It's not close.

Here's the problem, how many long runs has he actually had all season now that defenses are stacking the box? Not many. I rather have Stewart and Tolbert taking the first two downs rather Williams.

 

What are you judging this off of?  Had Deangelo been dropping a lot of balls that I haven't seen?  I have seen him grab some horribly thrown screen passes but haven't see him drop any.   Is this based off of something I have missed?

[Happy Panther]

Stewart has the superior hands. It's not close.

 

Except he fumbles at twice the rate of Deangelo

[Happy Panther]

What are you judging this off of?  Had Deangelo been dropping a lot of balls that I haven't seen?  I have seen him grab some horribly thrown screen passes but haven't see him drop any.   Is this based off of something I have missed?

Agree he has been very solid out of the backfield.

[Happy Panther]

And yet, I trust Stewie more to catch passes.

 

Even though he drops balls more?

 

Strange

[The Saltman]

Start Mike Tolbert. Ya I said it. We have one of the worst offensive lines in the running game and every time the man gets the ball he is making things happen regardless if there is a hole or not.

The man is the cheapest running back on our team and is proving to the other rbs that he is better than them.

[Udogg]

The mere fact that we can send Stewart 20 yards down the field like a WR and he can haul in those passes -- that's what makes me confident in J-Stew's hands over D-Will's.

 

Once again what are you basing this off?  Has Stewart been running some 20 yard down the field patterns?  Has Dwill?  Or is this your gut feeling.  I am not saying you are wrong but you keep saying stuff like "mere fact" ,"no doubt"   and  "hands down" etc but I don't see how you are coming up with it.

[Happy Panther]

Yep, because everybody knows J-Stew is perhaps the best RB on the team that can catch passes from that far away and in traffic. There's a reason why we don't ask of D-Will to do the same.

 

Well if "everyone knows that perhaps" is the argument I am beaten

[Newtcase]

How quickly we forget the importance of D-Will's San Fran TD.

 

I still think Kenjon Barner could be special as well, and he has the "Aaron Rodgers Situation" for a running back.

[Happy Panther]

Start Mike Tolbert. Ya I said it. We have one of the worst offensive lines in the running game and every time the man gets the ball he is making things happen regardless if there is a hole or not.

The man is the cheapest running back on our team and is proving to the other rbs that he is better than them.

 

I have wondered about this.

[Happy Panther]

Then explain to me why he gets more targets than D-Will. What, coincidence? Please.

 

:sleep:  :sleep:  :sleep:

 

Deangelo

232 Targets

1404 Yards

107 Games Played

2.2 Targets per game

13.1 Yards per game

 

Stewart

145 Targets

884 Yards

75 Games Played

1.9 Targets per game

11.8 yards per game

 

Done with this guy lol.

[CRA]

In games both Stewart and Williams have played in....overall I think Stewart has looked better.

Not enough to make a big deal over

[CRA]

Start Mike Tolbert. Ya I said it. We have one of the worst offensive lines in the running game and every time the man gets the ball he is making things happen regardless if there is a hole or not.

The man is the cheapest running back on our team and is proving to the other rbs that he is better than them.

Tolbert, Stewart, Williams should be the depth chart.....OL play and power run scheme make it so.

Not sure why we are doing the complete opposite

[Udogg]

Well, haven't you been watching this duo for years now? I mean, we could try to find countless clips on YouTube to prove a point but I assume we have better memories. Back when we drafted Stewart we acknowledged (not here; various other Panther sites) that while we didn't need another RB, Williams didn't possess the versatility that Stewart offered.

 

They are not used as down field passers.  They both catch screens/dump offs and checkdowns and turn them into long gains.  Deangelo was not noted for his hands coming out.  That has nothing to do with current Deangelo.  Watch games "recently" Deangelo has caught pretty much every catchable ball that has been thrown his way.   I remember maybe 1 wheel route Stewart ran 3 years ago.  That's it.  It's short dump offs which I don't see Stewart being so dramatically better than Dwill. 

 

Using recent history especially at the end of last year, Dwill took 2 short passes/screens to the house from 50+ yards out.  I haven't seen him drop a catchable ball from Cam on the screens and some of those passes are "shaky" at best.   If there was a passing drill Stewart could possibly be a better receiver than Dwill, however in games I haven't seen any indication one way or the other.  Your post make it seem like it's blatantly obvious which I don't see how you can come up with that.