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Still loving Gettleman?

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tiger7_88 Experienced

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Special players/employees are treated differently but if they aren't producing anymore they are no longer special for the present or future. Steve has been special for the past 10+ years and he deserves alot of credit for that but going forward he is no longer special.

It is kinda like a car. It has been the cornerstone of your life but after 10+ years the car is starting to breakdown. There comes a time when you say man it is not worth taking this car to get fixed anymore.

I've been working in the software industry for the same company for about 16 years now. For about the last five years, it hasn't been unusual to see about one "special" employee a month get the "pack your stuff in a box and thank you for your service, you've got 30 minutes to get out the door" perp-walk.

But millionaire Steve Smith found out through the media something he should have already assumed if he was smart: that HE is being evaluated just like every other damn player on this team.

OH NOEZ! G-MAN DONE DISRESPECTED SMITTY! :rollseyes:

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Yes I did take it as an insult to Smith and I believe that Smith was bothered by it as well. You don't tell the media that you're evaluating Smith while speaking of him in the past tense. You are right about one thing though, words do have meaning.

He didn't use the past tense.

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That is it. Gettleman doesn't like to overpay. Smith is great, but not a no 1 WR anymore. 

 

He's the number one WR on this team whether some of you choose to accept that or not. He's not going to find a guy that outplays Smitty in 2014 bargain shopping in FA or at #28 in the Draft. 

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Anyone who bashes G-Man is a Grade A moron like AceBoogie (you know, the guy that brought you "Star will bust"). This is what we asked for when Hurney bankrupted us and failed to find draft prospects outside the first round.

I haven't been on here a lot lately because I'm in school, but you're going to stop putting fuging words in my mouth. If you bring up my name get your fuging facts straight or you're just like Joe Person. Find me a fuging quote of mine where I said Star will be a bust. You're worse than the fuging media when it comes to misrepresentation.

I'm not a fan of Gettleman so the fug what, that's my opinion and if you don't like it then you know what to do.

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Would we have been 12-4 without him? There is no other GM I would rather have right now.

That's a question that can't be answered. We were trending up when he took over the team. The biggest reason for our success last season was Riverboat Ron. We were in close games the last two seasons and piss poor coaching decisions got us Loses. This year he made the right decisions and those same games turned into wins.

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The big question moving forward is "what is Gettlemans strategy gonna be". Does Gettleman go all out defence or does his priority become building an offence around Cam.

 

If he wants the opportunity to consistently make the playoffs he needs to do both. Quite frankly, he should be perplexed why 3 years ago our offense looked quite good with basically the same players as last year.

 

I know we need better throwing options for Cam but to me that is just part of the problems.

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That's a question that can't be answered. We were trending up when he took over the team. The biggest reason for our success last season was Riverboat Ron. We were in close games the last two seasons and piss poor coaching decisions got us Loses. This year he made the right decisions and those same games turned into wins.

 

I agree with part of this--it is a tough one to answer. We were trending up, but not to 12-4 without a great GM.  Here is a list of my reasons we turned the corner:

Despite being +$16 million over the cap, Gettlemen brought in at least 13 players who played key roles, many as starters. 

 

Mike Mitchell (starter)

Ted Ginn (key role as a WR and KR)

Chase Blackburn (starter)

Star Lotulelei (starter)

KK Short (key role in rotation)

Drayton Florence (part time starter, key role in rotation)

Captain Munnerlyn (starter---re-signed after letting him dabble in free agency)

Dwan Edwards (starter---re-signed after letting him dabble in free agency)

Travelle Wharton (starter)

Quintin Mikell (starter)

Melvin White (starter--undrafted free agent)

Robert Lester (key special teamer and rotational player--undrafted free agent)

Colin Cole (starter)

 

Not one big contract in the bunch.  He found starters in the draft and free agency that constituted nearly HALF of the 22 starting players.  

 

 

 

 

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I agree with part of this--it is a tough one to answer. We were trending up, but not to 12-4 without a great GM. Here is a list of my reasons we turned the corner:

Despite being +$16 million over the cap, Gettlemen brought in at least 13 players who played key roles, many as starters.

Mike Mitchell (starter)

Ted Ginn (key role as a WR and KR)

Chase Blackburn (starter)

Star Lotulelei (starter)

KK Short (key role in rotation)

Drayton Florence (part time starter, key role in rotation)

Captain Munnerlyn (starter---re-signed after letting him dabble in free agency)

Dwan Edwards (starter---re-signed after letting him dabble in free agency)

Travelle Wharton (starter)

Quintin Mikell (starter)

Melvin White (starter--undrafted free agent)

Robert Lester (key special teamer and rotational player--undrafted free agent)

Colin Cole (starter)

Not one big contract in the bunch. He found starters in the draft and free agency that constituted nearly HALF of the 22 starting players.

And nearly all of those guys are free agents this year. You can't say what hurney, or another gm would have done in that situation. How can you say we weren't trending up to 12-4 good when most of our loses during the 7-9 season came witching the last minute. We were just a team that needed to put it together and we did. For all the players you named I can name bigger players who played bigger roles drafted by Hurney. Our core players were brought here by Hurney.

Gettleman made some nice additions, but if you can't blame him after one season then you sure as hell can't give him all the credit. He will be judged on the years to come. The biggest reason for last season was Cam making smarter decisions, Luke was a full year starter, and Rivera got his poo together.

Let's not forget this team was 1-3 again, until Rivera changed his coaching style.

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I've been working in the software industry for the same company for about 16 years now. For about the last five years, it hasn't been unusual to see about one "special" employee a month get the "pack your stuff in a box and thank you for your service, you've got 30 minutes to get out the door" perp-walk.

But millionaire Steve Smith found out through the media something he should have already assumed if he was smart: that HE is being evaluated just like every other damn player on this team.

OH NOEZ! G-MAN DONE DISRESPECTED SMITTY! :rollseyes:

 

i'm wondering if this happened to Cam at the end of his career what you would say.

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