The Franchise Tag

[stirs]

Every team as use of this tag and its use is never intended for a one year rental at an inflated price.  Generally, it is to protect your guy from going elsewhere until you can hammer out an agreement.  Now to the Panthers.

 

We all figure, despite Hardys off the cuff remarks, that he and his agent want to hammer out a fair deal.  Deals for DE's in FA have ranged in th 7.5 Million per yr range.  Hardy should sign for around 9 per yr, give or take .5 million.  I would say about an 80% chance of that happening.  The other choice is for Hardy and his agent to play hardball and compare his contract to the ludicrous one given to CJ by Hurney.  At this point, sometime in April, I suspect that Gman would have to make a decision to keep his one year rental or exchange it for picks to some team desparate to make a splash with its fanbase.

 

My choice would be Minnesota.  They have the money, the incredbily expectant fan base, and an offense that certainly cannot get them over the top against teams led by Stafford, Rogers, and Cutler.  They are losing J Allen who has lost his step and paid a big premium to get him, remember?

 

So, trading Hardy to the Vikings, not for their first, which they will use for a future QB, but their 2nd and 3rd.  This is the year we need guys and with the depth of the draft, having 5 picks in the first three rounds could net us some really good components.

 

Again, only about a 20% chance we cannot hammer out a long term deal with Hardy, but if we cannot, what would you propose we do with him, keep him for one season or trade him and to whom?

[tondi]

If Hardy was willing to sign for 9 million a year.it would have already happened. He wants CJ money.

[Panthers8969]

I would propose we stop making threads about the same thing over and over again.

Amidoingitright?

[CarolinaSock]

If Peppers just got an average of 10 a year at 34 years old, I can't see Hardy taking anything less at minimum. Hardy was going to be the premier pass rusher on the market till we tagged him.

[stirs]

If Peppers just got an average of 10 a year at 34 years old, I can't see Hardy taking anything less at minimum. Hardy was going to be the premier pass rusher on the market till we tagged him.

 

Peppers deal is essentially a one yr deal worth 8.5 million.  I think Gman would go for that today.

 

[AceBoogie]

Trading Hardy and not getting a first, after all the effort to keep him would be a total fail.

[mbarbour21]

Trade for picks. We can use them and that cap space. But if he is gonna trade, might be smart to do it soon.

[CarolinaSock]

Peppers deal is essentially a one yr deal worth 8.5 million. I think Gman would go for that today.

Demarcus Ware signed a similar deal. My point is these guys are on the downside of their careers and getting this money. Hardy is coming into his prime, I can't see him signing for anything less than 10 a year, and that is the lower end. I'd look at the Trent Cole or Chris Long extensions as an example of what we're looking at.

[panthers55]

No team is going to trade for him unless they can get a long term deal.  If he won't sign here he won't sign elsewhere.  Gettleman wouldn't get rid of him for essentially the difference between 8 and 10 million.  He knows that we can backload the contract to be whatever we want.  The question is guaranteed money and that is what they are hammering back and forth, I susoect.

[Jangler]

Yeah, if a long term deal can't be worked out, we have to trade him....right?

[Way Truth Life]

It is a done deal.  Hardy plays for $13 million this year, then walks like Peppers.  Enjoy the rental, because no one will trade for the guy when he walks next year.  

[stirs]

No team is going to trade for him unless they can get a long term deal.  If he won't sign here he won't sign elsewhere.  Gettleman wouldn't get rid of him for essentially the difference between 8 and 10 million.  He knows that we can backload the contract to be whatever we want.  The question is guaranteed money and that is what they are hammering back and forth, I susoect.

 

That was the point, we might not want to do another CJ contract, but others might.  His agent I am sure knows whether or not some other team is willing to pay him 12 million per season.  The Gman or the agent connects the two and if they will give 12 million to Hardy over a 5 yr deal, and give us compensation, then is that better than an expensive one yr rental.  That was the point of the thread.  Jared Allen came to Minny in just such a fashion

 

[Lemory]

We are never doing a tag and trade with Hardy.

[carolina-chuck]

NO! We need Hardy and Minny already signed Griffin to a huge deal.