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D. Newton: Rivera is right. We don't need a number 1 WR. / OK, OK...

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Going to be tons of receivers available after this deep draft.   Just read where 27 yr old Stevie Johnson (who's never had an above average QB) may get released if Bills pick Evans at 9.    Johnson has had 3 years with averages of around 80 catches 1000 yds and 8 TDs.   I would sign him up as a #1/2 quickly.  Cotchery will be our 3, Underwood our 4, Rookie our 5, and McNutt or King our 6.   Our 1 will be a veteran that gets released and our 2 will be a rookie in my opinion.  

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You want a receiver with good hands look a McNutt. He had a horrible QB. You want speed look at King his QB never hit him in stride on the deep ball. You want a receiver to be tall and able to play the ball, look at both of them. They are our receivers from last years draft. Maybe not household names but, Smitty wasn't until year 4,5, or 6. Give the kids a chance.

 

smith was an all-pro his rookie year. sure, maybe not a household name for the general public, but every panther fan knew who smith was.

 

yeah, we can give mcnutt and king a chance, but it's very worrisome going in to the season with us relying on entirely unproven players.

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he made a name for himself and proved he can ball with the big boys... he was recognized as a bonafide playmaker. king and mcnutt... well, you know.

They haven't had a chance.... Yet.

We do not know how this is going to play out. Hell, 75% of the huddle was declaring a losing season at the start of last year when we signed the lines of Mitchell, Ginn, etc not to mention starting 5 rookies in defense for part of the year.

Gett and Rivera know more about building a football team than every poster on here combined....including myself.

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They haven't had a chance.... Yet.

We do not know how this is going to play out. Hell, 75% of the huddle was declaring a losing season at the start of last year when we signed the lines of Mitchell, Ginn, etc not to mention starting 5 rookies in defense for part of the year.

Gett and Rivera know more about building a football team than every poster on here combined....including myself.

 

that may be true. but, personally, i was very happy with the mitchell and ginn signings. ginn had proven what he is: a speedster, and that's it. i had a pretty good idea of what he was going to do, and he did it. mitchell looked really good playing against us as a raider. an athletic, hard hitting, trash talking safety was definitely something to be excited about. even drayton florence i thought was a good signing.

 

i'm just not really excited about any of the moves we've made this offseason. harper is a total bum. underwood is a clown (although i suppose i'm excited to see what he's got more so than our other FA additions). cotchery is a #3 receiver at best. in my opinion, we are worse than we were last year, which is incredibly disappointed seeing as i thought we were one or two pieces away from a superbowl title.

 

i think we can be competitive, but barring some huge surprise i don't think we will be competing for a superbowl.

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I respectfully disagree. If there was a Calvin Johnson in this or upcoming draft, I would literally trade the entire draft to move up and draft him and I mean that wholeheartedly. Ive watched a few Lions games and when Stafford and Megatron are on, you just cannot stop that offense period. I dont care if you doubled Megatron with Revis and Deion in their prime, you still couldnt stop them. If the Lions had a D like ours with that offense, they would coast to a SB.

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Its really hard to explain, but I have said on multiple occasions that:

The Jaguars have a number 1

Packers don't have a number 1

The Eagles (with Jackson) do not have a number 1

The Dolphins (admittedly not a great one) have a number 1

IMO, being a number 1 is not singular about production. Welker could have more receptions and yards and TDs than Moss in NE but I would say that Moss is number 1.

Also, it doesn't mean you cannot be productive without a number 1...the Packers and Eagles had two of the better offenses...the Jaguars and Dolphins had two of the poorer offenses.

To me, being a number 1 entails body size, athletic ability, production, and speed. A person you can plug into any offense and should produce and should have some measure of success against any type of defense.

Yeah you've said it multiple times and you are wrong. Jordy is clearly a number one and Cobb was about to have a break out season before his injury both of them would be number ones on a lot of teams

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I respectfully disagree. If there was a Calvin Johnson in this or upcoming draft, I would literally trade the entire draft to move up and draft him and I mean that wholeheartedly. Ive watched a few Lions games and when Stafford and Megatron are on, you just cannot stop that offense period. I dont care if you doubled Megatron with Revis and Deion in their prime, you still couldnt stop them. If the Lions had a D like ours with that offense, they would coast to a SB.

Great WRs make it look easy. We had Smith for so long we forgot how bad it can get. Its just like how people for get how a great oline or RB can change the game so much.

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i dont understand why you quoted me. what you said has nothing to do with what i was talking about

Sure it does. You talked about bottom dweller teams not doing anything even though they draft WRs. Those teams have to find QBs first. Then the WRs can come along.

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