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D-Will in shock over loss of receiving corp

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heel31ok Experienced

heel31ok

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i don't get how the same people saying he sucks,are the same people in agreement that the o line was garbage the last couple of years

 

 

 

breaking news.......the passing game nor running game won't get miles better until the trenches get fixed

 

Absolutely.

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AceBoogie, do you see your own hypocrisy in preaching "numbers never lie" and then when they may not quite support your argument the way you want them to, flip-flop and preach about things like "scheme" and playing against lesser competition? Which is it?

Greg Hardy - 15 sacks. Numbers never lie? Or are his stats inflated because he played against weak competition? Try to be consistent.

Numbers don't lie, but that doesn't mean you get to leave out common sense. 15 sacks is 15 sacks, but you'd be a fool not to acknowledge the rest of it.

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Numbers don't lie, but that doesn't mean you get to leave out common sense. 15 sacks is 15 sacks, but you'd be a fool not to acknowledge the rest of it.

 

you didnt even remotely answer his question.

 

so you'd be a fool not to acknowledge the rest of it when i comes to greg hardy.

 

but you wouldn't be a fool not to acknowledge the rest of it when it comes to dlo?

 

you can't have it both ways.

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More carries=more yards period.

I'm only interested in more wins. I couldn't give less of a poo if we were undefeated with DeAngelo having 2 carries a game. Seeing him run for 1000 yards doesn't influence my opinion of every element of the environment that surrounds him.

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It's AK.....you're not getting anything but emotion from em...

No it was a generalization. That's all. Dwill takes way to much heat in here.

I swear it's like people here don't even watch the games

Argument is dwill publicly speaking and it turned into a bash dwill thread.

Pretty spot on for this crowd.

I honestly don't give two sh!ts what anyone one here says cause it doesn't and won't effect the team in any manner.

Stay classy huddle.

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you didnt even remotely answer his question.

 

so you'd be a fool not to acknowledge the rest of it when i comes to greg hardy.

 

but you wouldn't be a fool not to acknowledge the rest of it when it comes to dlo?

 

you can't have it both ways.

 

Of course he won't answer it my post clears it up as well....

 

He talks about common sense then displays none.

 

**: If Greg Hardy is only good because he 'dominated' the backups and bums then why didn't the rest of the league feast on these same players?  

 

**Answer** Because it doesn't fit his argument

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