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I'm not deeply familiar with their system but it seems to me that they likely treat every play equally. Oh, that was a positive play. Sir, it was more than a run of the mill positive play. It was a jaw dropping game winning TD. You can't treat that play as the equal of a random 2nd down play in the 1st half where you made the wrong read and it resulted in an incomplete pass. Less drastic, there's just a difference in importance to say 2nd and 4 in a game you're up two scores and 3rd and 8 when you're trailing. There has to be something in the formula to account for weighting of plays and it's something that's going to take some trial and error and you're probably never going to stop tweaking with it to fine tune it. I think that's where a lot of the PFF scores feel off. You'll watch a game and a guy will have a handful of very impactful plays but not otherwise particularly stand out and PFF will grade him negatively but did he really have a bad game? He wasn't "bad" otherwise and he made a handful of key plays. I think every football person would grade that overall positively. Same thing on the flipside. A guy was pretty decent overall but had a handful of absolutely terrible reps that led to negative consequences in the game. Despite being overall decent most football people would agree that the bad outweighed the good and that should result in an overall negative grade where it seems like PFF would tend to grade that performance positively.

I get what you're saying but we're in another galaxy beyond inspirational speeches. This is just a snakebit franchise and probably will remain that so long as the Tepper's own the team. Everything they touch turns out bad. And there's no sign of them ceasing their meddling ways.

At this point it's unfortunately more than incompetence it is deliberate negligence. Everything they have done (Staff FO ownership) the last 3 offseasons has been to make things as comfortable as possible for their #1 overall pick. No real competition whatsoever at the most consequential position on the field three consecutive years. I mean that's insane negligence beyond even some of the most poorly run franchises in sports. That's where we're at.

At worst, he'll be great to line up in the slot next to T-Mac and then send him on go-routes as it will keep the safety from helping out against T-Mac

True. He backed it up though and proved he could lead a room full of grown men. I’m not sure Canales has that in him, or Bryce for that matter. You have to be able to motivate and lead the team, and I don’t see that trait in either Canales or Bryce.

I just went back and watched the Dan Campbell intro presser. I know Dave could never give that kind of speech.

I have no problem with number crunches or being a part of the process but I do with brining in PFF people and running their gospel. Like you said, for a flawed system they pretend it's never them. Well BS. And Tepper is absolutely on their crotch because we just drafted by them while building another easy picking top 10 team again.

Speeches only go so far as I'm sure Ron will tell you.

It's similar to Bryce though. I agree with you on Shedeur as a college QB. Absolutely. In terms of NFL prospects though, I would always point out that he doesn't have a single plus trait as an NFL QB. There's nothing about his measurables that are above average for an NFL QB. And then you had the playing style issue. Running around to buy time before chucking up a prayer to your elite NFL prospect teammate wasn't going to translate. I said the same thing about Shedeur that I said about Bryce, it's hard for me to look at his college play and point out many plays that I can say "See, that right there translates to the NFL. That works on Sundays."

It’s wild that I now miss the days of being a middle of the road team every other season. I’m about to start wishing for an old school defensive minded head coach again, at least we would have an identity.

I actually think it behooves us to play Bryce the whole year. If he sucks you get a higher draft pick and even if you don't draft a QB and go the veteran route you can trade down or get bain from Miami or downs from Ohio st

That was tmacs destiny the day he got selected by this awful franchise. Teddy bridgewater can’t save us now

I’d trade Legette for Sanders straight up or Sanders for a third. I hate watched all of Sanders games. I actually respect that mf quite a bit. He got his ass beat on every drop back and stated competitive, never got scared, never panicked.

I get this but at this point you need to worry about player development at other positions. like we need to be concerned about tmac, Coker etc. these are wasted years for them.

The way I see it that's his only option. That's if he's still here. I put it at 50/50 based on yesterday alone.

More than wild it is dumb and inconsistent considering how much we've allowed from our QB. Nearly what 35 games? And the jury is still out on him? But Legette is a for sure bust after 18 games? We are not a serious franchise.

Also because we have linebackers that couldn't start in the XFL, and no pass rush AT ALL. How many sacks do we have through 4 games????

The one thing we can't do again is go all in and mortgage the entire short to mid-term future on one prospect. The draft is just too much of a crap shoot to do that. There's no such thing as a sure thing in the draft. But when you trade a king's ransom in draft capital and a good starter to get a guy it's absolutely gutting if he busts. A top pick bust always sucks but at the end of the day all that cost you was one pick. You gotta leave it at that. You can't let a mistake cost you multiple 1sts, a 2nd, and a starting WR.

Maybe watching Bryce go 1st overall did more damage than we realized.

I get it I totally get it but the locker room would probably revolt at some point and dave really can have that

Right now is not the time to judge any of them. There's a few games yet to be played. They will have to take a shot at one of them anyway so let's hope a few of them show some promise. We are in qb purgatory my brother so it's going to take a lot of luck to find our way out.

It’s not defensive end. You can’t go out and get someone to learn how to play QB mid season. The beds been made. Now it’s time to poo in it.

Don't throw out the bait and complain about the biting.

just a rumor but still, trading your first round pick a year later is pretty wild https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/trade-partner-panthers-wr-xavier-legette/