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Name a guy we have drafted since 2018 that has had greater success elsewhere than they had here? I can tell you after looking, there aren't any. Hence why I keep saying this is an evaluation issue.

Turn the corner? That would mean he'd actually have to beat the corner and we know he can't do that.

I don't know if Canales is any good as a head coach yet, but he has done well with our non-XL receivers. I personally think he is handicapped by a key personnel and that is partly out of his hands for the next couple weeks. He's also very young, so will absolutely have head scratchers and growing pains. But outside of Wilks he's probably already out best HC since Rivera, which isn't saying much, and imo his ceiling is unknown vs Wilks' which unfortunately seems well known.

That's not what Bryce was pitched to be. Nor was the, what, 4th or 5th Tepper rebuild iteration? That's the problem with all this. You trade all this draft capital up to get these guys(Bryce, XL, etc) and then when they get their opportunities they can't hack it. As I have said many times, I view this as less of a development issue as I do an evaluation issue. We just suck at identifying talent correctly. It fails us all too often. If it was solely development, so many of these guys that left here after being failed draft picks would be studs. That is literally almost never the case.

I remember the days when it would take WRs a few years to figure it out in the NFL... What a time that was! Getting to the point of guys finding success else where after flopping here: patience and a vision. Thanks to Tepper, we haven't been able to develop a vision. Without patience, everything is a reaction. That's not to say sometimes you can tell when a fit it bad and people need to move on. In XLs case, it's not going to hurt us to be patient. Sure, fans see how Tmac is doing and are like "XL who??" I get it, but I also think reacting for the sake of reacting isn't the best thing to do. Should XL get off social media for a bit and focus on the game? Yes. As Cam screamed "Lock in bro!" I know being patient is hard when you see guys get off to fast starts in their careers. Tepper can't really afford to be reactive right now. He's got to let Dan and Dave have the time to build their team. Most of us are Panther fans. We're the idiots here, year after year, hoping things have changed. Most of us will continue to do so, and hope things turn around. While some of us will balk at the salary cap, contracts and wasted years; it doesn't affect us personally since we're just fan. Now for those folks on the teams...yeah...they need to get it together before they lose their jobs and have to move!

Wow that’s actually really cool chatgpt can do that Although, as we know Arizona sat in soft zone the entire second half. So there was a lot of dinking and dunking, but that’s the right thing to do in that situation. Week 1 pass chart doesn’t look bad. He pushes the ball downfield more than several other quarterbacks I’ve watched. For some reason the huddle thinks other quarterbacks are constantly throwing 60 yard bombs. That is absolutely not the case. Some quarterbacks aren’t taking any deep shots at all.

We keep referring to it as Over drafting him like he was really a first round draft pick. We traded up at the end of the first to get him in a deal with Buffalo so that we could grab him and get an extra year on his contract if needed. At the time that sounded like "If he really soars, we can get that fifth year extension automatically". It really probably meant, "We might need five years to really get him up to starting WR speed." He was basically a second rounder with a potentially meaningless pick as well to pay for those rights. Still, I think that with him we are on the Kelvin Benjamin bubble right now... will he ever be more than just an athlete? Can he really learn to fight and compete for that ball? Can he learn professional routes? Can he handle the fame and more money than he's ever seen in his life? Can he handle all of the pressure a fanbase puts on him? Tough shoes to fill. Not sure I'd want to be in them. I hope he gets it all together soon. A lot, most draftees, can't. Good luck and God bless to the young man. He's got a lot of work to do in a very unforgiving workplace.

This is the #1 reason I defend Bryce. Everyone around him is learning on the job, including him. But hey in 3 years we could have a talented offense that grew up together.

Nope. No balling out but he could latch on as a backup elsewhere. I still think he would be the weak link on a ridiculously loaded team that would create problems in the Playoff and while facing other really good teams. His limitations are just to much at this level. I have zero fear of playing him in the future. It's a litmus test for the D, granted the D is pretty awful currently so none needed.

Depends. If he goes to the Eagles to be Hurts' backup and Hurts gets hurt, he could do well since they have a top 3 oline, RB, and WRs

Atl will get 4+ sacks against us and Bryce will have 2+ turnovers. Quote me on this!! ATL has actually improved over the offseason, despite our additions we some how have regressed terribly.

XL is about to turn the corner... Of his house as he is chasing a rabid squirrel trying to eat rabies infected squirrel meat...

Cam Newton recently talked about XL's poor performance. He talks about XL not being focused on the right things and training wrong. He needs to get away from Glorilla, focus on football, and stop posting tik tok vids of his workouts per Cam. What's the purpose of posting your workout vids online? Are you trying to show the public how hard you are working behind the scenes? Cam says Davante Adams never posts his work out videos for likes, he just works on his craft in private and shows up in games when it matters. I think XL works hard, but he is just not working on the right stuff of being a WR. In example, not getting your feet in bounds. That's basic stuff bud.

It would help if they stopped trying to force them to be the faces of the franchise and just let them earn it... Or not overdrafting guys... Or drafting 'their' guys with better options on the board... Or hiring poorly or hiring people willing to fail while doing it the Tepper way... There is a lot I am tired of in Pantherland.

Man, am I tired of Charlotte being the place these guys go before they work out their issues.

Bryce's daddy might be able to help him. On second thought...

Wow, he seems really lost. He should consider seeing a sports psychologist to help him work through this or he will be out of the league before you can say possum stew.

I believe I have to disagree with this. Effort is 100% mental toughness. When the body is tired and hurting, and the emotions are down due to bad outcomes, it is the mind that tells them to gather those hidden resources and push through the next play. Same applies to the last set at the end of a brutal workout, the last hour of a long day on the job or any one of multiple other situations where you have to tell your body to push through and ignore the pain.

Mental problems and lack of effort two games into sophomore season.. Great

Effort isnt mental though and hes also shown no effort.

Yeah, I doubt it. I just don't think he has NFL tools. He would need a Goff style landing spot where everything is setup perfectly for him and even then, I just think he's too physically limited to be a legit starting QB in the NFL.

At least give them their credit. They lost 4 in a row.

I think Tua is seeing ghosts out there a lot of times. Not in the Sam Darnold "oh no, I might throw an INT" way but in the "OMG, I don't wanna die" way.

I don't think Matt Rhule is an NFL coach, but he was and maybe still is good in college. Temple first year in 2013 2-10, Temple last year in 2016 10-3 bowl game; Baylor first year in 2017 1-11, Baylor last year in 2019 11-3 Sugar Bowl;-----Panthers/NFL tenure-----; Nebraska first year in 2023 5-7, Nebraska this year 3-0. If Nebraska beats Michigan this weekend (a distinct possibility), they are probably looking at a really nice season.

No because Baker and Darnold have actual normal QB traits.