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Having watched all the games I dont care about qbr but using the eye test stroud, herbert and rodgers all completely pooed the bed. Rodgers and herbert were the main reasons they lost. Stroud should have cost his team the win. Bryce played really well and he was not the reason we lost. What he needs is consistency. His highs are impressive. But his lows are abysmal. Hes shown what he can do. But now he needs to do it way more often

The offense took the lead with 2 minutes to go..

I believe you are accurate there. Without knowing for a fact, I think we basically understand what happened.

One was definitely a drop and also a completion in 3 downs takes multiple players, not just qb.

I agree. If Icky has full recovery it may be time to move him inside. He will always have trouble with a good speed rusher at L.T.

Question can we sign Coker to a4 year deal or does it have to be 2 based on udfa

I dont think we need 2 ilb or any TE in the grand scheme of needs priorities.

We both lost tough games.

I’d say one more year and he’s gotta go.

I remember chatting with his dad on the facebook post when he signed with us and telling him I thought he was gonna make an impact... cool dude btw

we lost.

Final Drive: First play Bryce misses an open Jimmy Horn in the middle of the field. It would have easily moved the sticks and taken very little time off the clock. He was probably the only WR open on that play, but it's right in front of you. Gotta see that one. And Jimmy has the fresh legs on that drive. Second play there was potential but the protection broke down before guys even got to the top of their routes. WRs really gave up on the play in the scramble drill though. I think Coker and TMac were exhausted. On the 3rd play that was a perfectly thrown ball to Jimmy Horn. The defender has an obvious pass interference at the top of the route to knock him off path. If that contact doesn't happen, that would have been a big play. It drops perfectly in his hands similar to the TD pass to Coker. And they were in man, so he would have had room to run. Refs missed that one. You could even see the defender kind of waiting for the flag that never came. He knew it too. The last play was 100% on Jimmy. You see him actually set up to catch the ball out in front with his hands. Little shuffle in there to time it just like he wanted it. Could have just come back to the ball, as there was very little zip on that pass. I think Bryce kind of aimed it instead of just letting it rip and it died on him downfield. Or as others suggested just slide and body catch it to make sure you don't miss it. He's young and hadn't caught a pass all game. Probably would have been better if Coker was in that spot. This is just a young team. I really think they'll be fine next season. Jimmy can be that guy. He gets separation on crossing routes every time. Guys just can't keep up with him. Gain a little trust and chemistry with Young and he can get in the offense. Not real hopeful for XL. Come on dude. We're counting on you.

Not even sure what qbr is. Goeff has the 3rd highest QB rating at around 115 but has the 18th worse qbr rating at 57. Sam Darnold is even worse at 56. Hell, it qbr ranks Spencer Rattler as a better QB than Shough (24th and 25th respectively). Something seriously does not add up. For what it is worth, 4 of the first six teams the Panthers played had defenses ranked 26th through 32nd while 4 of the last 6 teams they played were ranked in the top 10 in defense. So they played tougher defenses and had higher completion percentages, higher yrds/rec, higher TD % and lower int %. Not sure how you can improve in all those areas against better teams and have the same qbr. Odd. https://sumersports.com/teams/defensive/

A star was born Saturday night, most just don’t realize it yet

What do you think of Matt LaFleur?

You hire a coach and give him a multi year contract, trade up to 1st overall with 4 potential QBs to chose from, it only makes logical sense that he would get to select his QB. He's going to be running the team for at least 3 years, hypothetically. Why wouldn't he get his guy? Bryce was Tepper's choice, not Frank's. You knew Frank didn't want to work for Dave after the draft. Can't work for a guy you can't trust and Dave and Scott lied to him. His face told the story then, it showed during the season, and he completely gave up when he couldn't fix Bryce over the weekend.

Exactly. Bryce by no means played bad at all. But his "great" day wasn't even better than Stafford who did nothing for like 1 and a half quarters. Not only that, if our end goal is a superbowl, he's going to have to play good for 4 weeks straight..............when he hasn't even gone a month with consistent play since entering the league.

You never know. Panthers played 7 playoff teams this season. I only see 6 for next season.

Right. And a muddy situation where some lawyer is technically in charge. I would think there would be instructions from Blank in a will or something.

Sounds like this year's Jalon Walker.

Well I was thinking of you, only packer fan on my radar. tough luck.

Inherited or sold like other situations