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I like Wilks the person but he just isn't it as a coach. I don't necessarily like it either but what are ya gonna do? He's basically a poor man's Ron Rivera and that's being kind. Wilks had a couple nice wins but then he got the doors blown off by the Bengals and then he lost to a rebuilding mediocre at best Steelers team starting Mitch Trubisky in BOA stadium. Those were two things you just can't do. Losing to to Brady with the Bucs didn't help but I wasn't necessarily surprised by that outcome. I cannot say what would have transpired if we decided to make him the head coach going forward. But he probably would have gotten axed too looking at how our ownership has been so meddlesome. Either way it's over and done with. You gotta move on man.

I think Stew was underrated. I think Chuba is about properly rated. And I don't mean that as a knock; he gets it done and I won’t criticize him. I never liked Stew’s chronic foot or ankle issues but he was a load. I think I would take Stew in a close call.

I feel like the league is forcing this globetrotting - which I do not like fwiw - but they have so much money why the hell don’t they just provide two planes for teams to make the trip on? They wouldn’t even miss he money.

Yeah at this point some of the counter arguments in response to very real issues with Bryce Young that we have all seen with our own eyes are akin to someone believing the earth is flat. You're just never going to get through to someone like that.

Some more with current injuries, but solid WR1/2 combos IF healthy: Jefferson/Addison Lamb/Pickens Aiyuk/Pearsal Also, Egbuka seems to be taking over for Godwin. Quentin Johnson is leading LAC’s in receiving right now. If Franklin develops, he’s likely a better WR2 than XL. If Allen didn’t love TEs and run a lot, Coleman and Shakir could be solid. Just not enough WR balls. Shakir did have 800+ last year in 15 games but Coleman’s eating into that.

Yeah, he's a perfect college QB and big part of that is him being a highly effective QB who doesn't have the skill set that NFL teams clamor for so you don't have to worry about him going pro early. You're going to get all four years out of a guy like that.

You seem to be playing some semantics/technicality argument… he literally posted a video declaring Bryce had A++ arm strength with the visual spelling that out. One step below S tier (which is where a Favre would be). It’s literally the opening statement made in the post. Then it talks about what gets in the way of him always achieving that A++ arm lol.

Yeah, flying an NFL team coach is just stupid. These are huge people and the team owners have massive resources. It's a good investment in your product to have your team flying comfortably.

I agree lol and they are being cheap

Well, poo. Unfortunately it's all happening. The kid is 12 now and in middle school and they're still ALL IN on this baseball stuff. They're really encouraged because some of his teammates are being invited to national level teams, etc. Yeah, some of his teammates. Not him. They finally put the kid in a quasi-school that's a hybrid type thing where he goes to school a couple of days a week and the rest is virtual/home school. He's struggling terribly so they're talking about pulling him out. The family has talked to them over and over about how this prioritization of baseball has to stop and they have to start actually prepping this kid to succeed in life. Being a professional athlete is a long shot even for an elite athlete and your kid just doesn't have the genetics and you're fuging him up in life with these backassward priorities.

JStew/Chuba is about a push IMO. I love JStew but I honestly think he's one of the more overrated Panthers by our fanbase. Yeah, the '15 TEs were way better. The OL is a push. '15 was better on the interior and a lot better at specifically center but '25 is a lot better at OT, specifically at RT. Yeah, the '25 WR corps is significantly better.

You fail to grapple with the reality that Stroud has proven that he can play at a high level in the NFL and Bryce hasn't. Guys who have shown it tend to get a little more leeway because... well, they've shown it.

Let me slightly reword that, King is the best QB and therefore the most impactful player. I would go so far as the claim he is the best player in the ACC. huge King fan. He is exactly what I would want as my college QB. Total different wants for my pro team but he is college football to me

Teams that have clearly established WR1 and WR2 roles that are both legit threats. Miami - Hill and Waddle Dallas - Lamb and Pickens Detroit - St Brown and Williams Rams - Puka and Adams Eagles - Brown and Smith Tampa - Evans and Godwin Cinci- Chase and Higgins Chargers - McConkey and Allen Too soon to tell Chicago - Moore and Odunze Giants - Nabors and Robinson Thats it really. You could argue Pittman and Pierce in Indy but one of them is always hurt it seems. Of the 32 teams, those are the only ones that if you took away the WR1, the 2 could step into the role. Those are the only clear WR1 and WR2 in the NFL right now imo.

So the ultimate point you are trying to make is Bryce is now better then Stroud. You go for it buddy

There was nothing to interpret. You failed to mention the hypocrisy of how folks call Stroud's issues reasons for his struggles but call it excuses for Bryce which was already explained.

JStew > Chuba Olsen, Dickson > Tremble, Sanders Oher/Norwell/Kalil/Turner/Remmers > Icky/DLew/Mays/Zavala/Moton The WR room is probably the only group better than the 2015 team.

Which part of "Stroud has regressed" did you fail to interpret?

What does eating opossum have to do with playing football? I really despise this line from you city slickers who don’t know a hoe from a hoe. Chill on your hatred of all things peaceable and nice.

It's even easier than that. CJ was said to have elevated his team rather the entire team elevating one another. However, the team is 0-3 with CJ's stats being worse than Bryce's this year. Defense? Weapons? Coaching? Those were called excuses for Bryce, but they're now called reasons for CJ? The hypocrisy is deafening.

Wilks is overrated as a coach? He got one year in Arizona and his half year in Carolina was the best ball we’ve seen since what, 2017? We were Ickey Ekwonu meltdown away from the playoffs in 2022 despite everything that happened. We should have kept Wilks, re-signed Darnold, re-signed Foreman, drafted Kincaid, Torrance, and Charbonnet. Then, had we sucked again, we could have taken Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, or Drake Maye and kept DJ Moore.

They fired him because he made 0 changes. It was the same offense from year 1 and when defenses keyed in on that he made no changes. Now did they replace him with someone better? I dont know. They also got rid of their best OL and didn’t replace that talent. They went and drafted more WRs and didn’t aggressively try to fix the OL after trading their best guy to Washington.

It’s not cheating. It’s pattern recognition.

ABC - Always Be Cheating

Very high potential especially Scourton. His versatility is looking more than previously shown. I think he should be a starter Prince looks like a pass rush specialist right now. But that's okay, he will develop.