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I think if Horn doesn't fall over twice we might still be playing.

Sounds like QB is the problem.

Idk a lot of people are finally giving up on him. Canales ultimately had the approval to do it last year when he did because Andy was going to remain the starter until he hurt his hand in the car wreck. I don’t think Tepper really cares. He was probably just as pissed today, tbh. And when I say I don’t think Tepper cares I just mean, if he was good with it before he probably would be now. The FO is probably just trying not to have another Darnold/Mayfield situation and are overly cautious. Tepper has no problem turning on people.

The only good thing about today is Tyler Shough look good enough that the Saints might pass on drafting a QB. I would freaking hate seeing Mendoza twice a year. That dude is going to be a monster in the League.

"Lateral offense" is a pretty common criticism of WCO type schemes. But yeah, the coaches are making some mistakes.

Hopefully Dan put him in a closet and told him not to come out until he has a list of QB options this offseason. In his defense, last offseason was his first one.

Quotes from a human turnstile. Bryce is horrible but Icky is one of the worst LT in the league

That may be what it takes to convince ownership. Nothing else has.

I hear you, but I don’t think a few more screen plays would have made much difference. We’re not scoring 20+ points without some kind of effective pass game.

That is my #1 concern. He will wear out if they don't share the load some way, some how.

“that’s a demon, that’s our franchise QB right there”

Haha if @Zodand others can leave so can I

never thought i woild say this but at this point canalas should just remove passing completly. run run run no marrer whar

If I were defensive coordinator I’d go into game against Bryce with 8 men in the box to stop the run and double TMAC all game long and dare the offense to beat me thru the air.

Me too. That's why benching him for literally anyone would be a huge sign of relief. Do I expect to find anyone any better? Honestly, no. Not in mid-November with the trade deadline past. You practice squaders and guys on couches at this point. That's your only options. It would just be a relief to see a clear signal that we're moving on after this year. That would provide some hope.

Speaking of, where's that PFF guy

Some people are/were entertaining the idea of the Panthers in the playoffs. This was a preview of how it would go. The Saints are not a playoff team, but when the stakes go up in the playoffs, the opponent tries to take away a team's strength, and Young isn't good enough to even make the Saints pay for that strategy.

Canales needs to make a QB decision and I feel his decision will be to let BY sink this ship…

Nah, you dont get to leave. Get your ass back in here and suffer with the rest of us.

Not trying to... Said up front I wanted to focus on problems other than Bryce. And yes, those exist, whether people choose to acknowledge them or not.

The WR room has question marks but we really need to see this group with better QB play.

I would like to be able to say I have the confidence that our decision makers enact and carry out such a plan going forward. I need to see it to believe it at this point after three straight years of coddling the smallest starting QB in the NFL.

Jones played into his 4th year without the extension. IIRC, Murray got a new deal in place of the option, but the Card's brass were VERY slow and methodical about it. There was a stink about language in the contract concerning mandatory film study time because apparently Kyler is a huge gamer. It's like they really didn't want to do it, however they felt obligated because Murray was the #1 overall pick and didn't want to give up on him despite lackluster results. Sound familiar?

Signs a two year/$10M type of deal with a team looking at him as a backup/possible resurrection story. Gets released after one year. Bounces around a couple of camps afterward and out of the league.

Absolutely not. Their curse begins with George Shinn, and has some other factors and events that have enhanced it over the years.