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I realize we were down 24 points when the Carolina Panthers touched the ball for the first and only time in the 3rd quarter...and they went on a 14 play checkdown drive taking the exact plays the Cards wanted them too and gave them overall. and now you got folks cherry picking random plays asking how could it be garbage time if the Cards weren't in prevent on a 3rd down short yardage play or on the goal. all you got do to is just watch the game live on repeat and not listen to the announcers.

Just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth. I think Bryce decides who he's throwing to before the snap too often instead of reading what he sees post snap. Now alot of that is trying to influence the safety, but if the safety doesn't bite, he gets stuck and it turns into Bryce trying to make a play off schedule as the other options are gone. Cam did the same thing when Kelvin and Smitty were in the game. Bryce sees the field. He just gets a little stubborn sometimes. And that's when he gets himself into trouble. That and he doesn't trust guys to make plays on 3rd down. Instead of throwing to the open guy and letting them get the remaining 3-5 yards for the first, he'll wait until he can throw a guy to the markers. I don't think those physical limitations that keep being brought up is that real for him. Well... until he gets tackled and fumbles the ball at an alarming rate. But he has a strong enough arm, sees the field, and doesn't get injured by regular hits.

Panthers win of course. Like every Sunday I still have the hopelessly optimistic mindset

You do realize that first play was at 9:16 and they scored a TD before the 2 minute warning. 7 minutes is not a super long drive to come out with a TD. Longer developing plays is what helped get Carolina in the situation they were in. So you're suggesting they should have kept calling the same plays that weren't working? Are you suggesting Bryce keep throwing the same passes that weren't being completed? They were not in soft zone coverage. For comparison, this is Carolina's first defensive alignment in the 3rd quarter, and that's with only 1 WR on the field. Cardinals were in a normal alignment/depth to stop run or pass. Not a soft zone to give underneath passes to TEs/RBs only. The LBs would likely be closer to 10 yards deep and the DBs more like 15-20 yards in that scenario.

I saw Hooker live in Detroit. He. Stinks.

I am too. Frank became completely disinterested in the HC job after the draft.

down 24 and we get our first possession in the 3rd and what happens? run TE checkdown TE checkdown run run run RB checkdown TE checkdown run TE checkdown incomplete TE checkdown run now on the 4 yard line- Renfrow TD and POOF! 3rd quarter is over. That's not a team even trying to get back into the game in reality. That's just the Panthers taking freebies to make it look respectable in the end and guess what? Bryce gets to pad on 6/7 to his stat line in exchange for making the 3rd quarter disappear. Not sure the hyper focus on the depth of the corners. Cardinals were going to simply drop and allow the easy stuff underneath. Which they did. Did they play a random short yardage play a little different? Sure. That doesn't' mean they weren't just letting the Panthers overall eat clock to bring the game to an end. The Cards strategy was fine on D. You just don't generally see teams implement it as early as they did but they were up pretty big. It's the other units for the Cards that fugged the plan up. again, it's 3 drives, the ONE in the 3rd quarter and only drive of the entire quarter and the 2 to open the 4th. Cardinals gave Bryce stuff in exchange for clock (and the result was slow long drives eating the clock). The rest of the game? They didn't. The rest of the game outside of those 3 drives the Cards weren't in garbage allowance mode and Bryce stunk

But a serious question is, does he not see a guy come open because he misses seeing them on the field, which happens to every QB, or, is his vision blocked by the wide bodies in front of him instead of the helmets other QBs experience? For instance missing a wide open Chuba. Did he not see him or could he literally not see him? I tend to think the latter is a far bigger problem than we're being led to believe it is.

Agree he needs to clean up the costly turnovers. My opinion is that he's pretty good other than that. But that's kind of a big deal, so absolutely needs to minimize that stuff or he can't succeed. I don't beat up a QB because he occasionally doesn't see a guy come open. Every QB does that - occasionally.

Corbett was not only inconsistent with his snaps, he really sucked in pass protection.

Yes, that was the first TD pass to Renfrow in the right corner. Here's the presnap defense on the TD pass.

Did we score on that drive?

We show a weird tendency to play vets over the young guys all things equal

Jonathan Jones and Blue Jean Fridays

Taking us. Bryce’s biggest issue is starting slow, it’s inexcusable and needs to get figured out but I think it’s out of his system now with 2 road games. I expect a clean game from him at home, TMac coming out party, Chuba over 90 yards, and the D gives up a ton on the ground but shuts down the passing game and we win a close one.

The Jaguars defense handled him similarly. They actually didn't even blitz much. Ultimately this boils down to how long the coaches will allow this to continue and when not if they pull the plug. Things with the OL and receivers are not ideal but there is talent here and there are still opportunities and plays to be made. Bryce is a nice kid but it's year 3 and his limitations and the ramifications of that across the offense are abundantly clear.

Of course not. Back then we all longed for consistency. We just couldn't find a way to put together good seasons but we'd mess around and have good seasons often enough to keep things interesting and give reason for hope. That's a helluva lot better than just being the league's doormat year after year.

The Teppers hand picked Bryce themselves. Im convinced they made that pick. Bryce is their baby. I only hope they will be able to admit that they were wrong and let the evaluators select our next QB

Is it wrong to long wistfully for the days of Jerry Richardson? Asking for a friend…

I don't know if they did or didn't. I do know they weren't giving up everything underneath.

Should have kept him. He'd be our QB and would also start at LB since Morgan fields a defense that seems to believe that LB is not necessary.

It's almost like they have no fear or respect for Bryce's arm.

Atlanta. They are fiesty. Last game last year was just a practice run. This one should show their improvement and the Panthers stagnation.

Roger that. So 3rd quarter and on? No poster has framed it that way either. All I've heard was all of his yards were garbage time stats. Would it help if I showed the presnap defensive alignments starting in the 3rd quarter? Again, not trying to argue or show anyone up. Just trying to inform. For the record, this is the first offensive play in the 3rd quarter. Only 1 defender 10+ yards deep. 8 defenders are within 5 yards of the LOS. That is nobody's prevent formation, giving up everything underneath to TEs and RBs. I can do the entire drive if you want. Let me know. Here's 3rd down of that drive. Press with 7 on the LOS.

So many mistakes on draft day cause this stupid front office is hell bent on getting “their” guy team needs to find an identity first, we don’t do anything very well on offense, defense or special teams the fact that we didn’t bring in qb completion or a c when both positions most fans knew would fail at some point tells me all I need to know