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Well it appears nearly all of our offensive rookies will be getting substantial playing time. McMillan, Etienne, Evans Miami's defense is crap - 2nd worst in 3rd down conversion %, 26th in yards per game, no real threats. Will be interested to see if anyone makes noise. Or maybe Chop Robinson just destroys us lol.

In spite of what anyone says about the player-to-coach pipeline, what's undeniable was Luke was already the coach, defensive coordinator and playcaller when he was on the field. He would be a natural DC, and arguably HC. I've been in favor of this move since his retirement, and I'd love to see it happen.

I very seriously doubt that but at the same time the Mac Jones we saw last night would've never showed up in Carolina, that's for sure.

Good thoughts there man. I I agree with about all of that. You speak to the importance of having continuity. I am big on it as something that we have lacked that is stunting our growth. Constantly resetting the clock and taking the steps back that come with it. And here we are yet again - 21 games after saying we are really gonna commit to it this time, only to be bitten by the instant gratification bug because it isn’t paying off. in other news I probably don’t know enough about some of these candidates listed above but I don’t see much that excites me. Especially when I add Tepper to the picture. Plus there is a lot of season left that needs to play out still.

With that list, it's Minter all day. But I doubt he'd want to come here.

Nepotism...that's how.

And Canales responds, “No one else would take the interview… “

I mean, in all honesty, it shouldn't change much. Is he better than Rico? Sure. Is it by a big enough margin to alter that much? Not really. I like the way Rico runs. He isn't as patient as Hubbard which I think leads to greater chances of big runs but also more negative runs

He was hurt last game, that's why Rico got more touches. It's the NFL and injuries are the norm. They did right and went out and got a back that can run. Now prove they chose wisely

He was a project coming out of college and seeing that he doesn’t care much he won’t make it IMO

My very UNPOPULAR opinion: First, I would want to know the locker room. Have they turned on Canales? If not, I would stay with him. Here is why: Switching coaches every year or two is not the answer to long term success. We are chasing hope instead of building a program around a young coach. There were not many applicants for this job and if you think they are suddenly dying to be here now, that MIGHT justify a coaching change Canales has made some tough decisions (like benching Bryce), but his weaknesses (the team's weaknesses) have been in the areas in which we have neglected or sucked for years. Who did we get for CMC? Who made the trade with the Bears when we had no idea at the time who we wanted? Who drafted Mingo, Marshall, XL, etc.? Who signed a frequently-injured CB to the biggest contract in NFL history at the time for a CB? I look at the personnel decisions and the play calling. Our edge players are injured and not that good when healthy. He played Johnson because he had nothing left. Johnson was terrible Sunday. He has nothing at LB and two starting OL are now out. XL is pouting because he does not seem to have paid the price to be paid the price of a first round pick. AT was sent packing. Bryce's resurgence last year may have been Canales and not Bryce. Evero still does not have the tools he needs to succeed--on the field or perhaps between his ears. If Canales fires Evero, he is probably doing the right thing. Remember, we had a lot of money in dead cap when Canales took over. Fitterer was the worst GM since Matt Millen in the NFL, and we have sucked recently in the first round of the draft (Bryce, XL) until this season. When the GM is trying to give the coach what he needs to be successful and you keep changing coaches, it is difficult. I think this--stay with Canales, but bring in a veteran DC. Some argue that Canales needs to move on from Bryce, but this team is not set up to give him options. Andy aint the answer. We never seem to take the PS QB seriously--all eggs are in one basket. Canales needs options. This team needs to address the QB situation. Bryce's best games are not Lombardi worthy, so move on. He is not the Alpha a young coach needs on the field. Give him options at QB, some LBs and a good coordinator on defense, and I think we could use another stud WR. It is time to start drafting developmental OL and start grooming them to replace our aging OL. This draft is solid at QB as it stands now. We need to focus on drafting the right guy and signing a veteran backup who is not the starting QB's BFF. Compete. Heck, i have no problem doing what Cleveland did--draft a QB in round 1 and then another QB if one falls into day 3. I think we need stability and I am not confident any respectable coach comes to Carolina. Canales is frustrated, but the front office has failed him, as have injuries, and a really bad draft a few years ago that brought them Bryce. He was hired to fix Bryce--so I say neuter him so he does not sire any more 5'8" QBs. Canales is better that Rivera was--Canales just has so much less talent. Rivera was coach of the year a few times because he had Cam Newton, but could never put two winning seasons together. That is a crime.

Oh poo.

The Tepper move is 100% to want Belichick thinking that fixes our problems after striking out so much Let's see how much more he can screw up the franchise when JordON and Nicole are assistant GMs

Obviously a crazy jump straight to HC, but he's the one guy I'd think could (eventually) do it. There would be rough patches, but put a former HC on his staff to help. Ron would want no part of Tepper again, and doubt Wilks would unless one of them just did Luke the solid of a lifetime. Build a time machine, keep Wilks as HC, hire Luke as his LB coach, transition to DC, and now he'd be ready.

I am bc always puzzled how these faults manage to transcend multiple different eras with completely different people across the board, making judgements on players.

I think he limps into year 3 with a Matt Rhule short leash. Basically if it looks like the start to 2024 and 2025, he is canned prior to the halfway point.

The amount of people in the corporate world that you meet and want to directly ask, "How the fug did you get this job?" is staggering.

I think the broader question should be is what is the threshold for bare minimum wins that DC comes back for a 3rd year? I think anything less then 5 and he is a goner. Does anyone really thing Tepper brings this motley crew back with 3/4 wins?

Thank you. If that happens, barring a miracle where Young magically acquires an ability to compete against pro defenses, I won’t be here and won’t care. Personally, when I see Andy run the offense I feel like a weight has been lifted. It goes back to looking like pro football. I can’t help but think it would be liberating for Canales. or anyone. Bet we’d have seen Reich perk right up.

TBH, I would lean more heavily to Jon Gruden for the specific reason that he would be the most likely to have the experience and track record to push back on ownership. To be clear, I don't think he would be super successful here but this franchise needs to start with someone that actually has an NFL track record of success and can show others in the organization what it looks like to prepare that way. If we can at least attempt to model ourselves after an NFL franchise even at all, that would be a valid starting point to any sort of turnaround.

I didn't even realize he was hurt... I didn't think we would beat the Dolphins but this news makes it an even tougher game!

This is ignoring the parade of bust WR's the Panthers have had over the past 20 years. If you can point out the examples of these WR's going elsewhere and getting better than before here, by all means, please show them to us. More likely than not, you are going to see more Philly Brown's, Brenton Bersin's and the like that never had any appreciable NFL career post-Panthers. Hence why I continually point out our issues is far less the development than the evaluation of players.

I would add a couple of other names: - Wes Phillips (Vikings OC) - Patrick Graham (Raiders DC) My personal shortlist: - Joe Brady - Wes Phillips - Patrick Graham - Brian Flores - Todd Monken - Klint Kubiak I just wonder if Joe Brady would have any interest in coming here after how things unfolded last time. Especially given that he's almost certainly going to have other options. No retreads unless it's someone like Mike Vrabel/Brian Flores who really should not have been fired to begin with or someone like Sean Payton who retired and is returning. HELL no to Mike McCarthy and HELL NO to any college coach. Honestly, though, if we can't get a sure fire upgrade I'd just assume keep Canales and hope he does better with a (hopefully) better QB. Other than Joe Brady I'm not honestly all that thrilled with the options that are out there. Although I do think Wes Phillips is a very underrated name that could make a lot of sense. I'm surprised he hasn't generated more buzz. I think the Commanders model could be a good one. An experienced defensive-minded HC with a creative OC that has already been a HC and been fired. Mike McDaniel would be a great choice for OC if/when he gets fired from Miami. Pairing him with Brian Flores or Patrick Graham could be a really solid move, IMO.

Well said. My valid concern is this: Say DC does survive to see ‘his’ QB. how many viable brain cells will have survived the hell he will have gone through up to that point? Just think if he has 1 more year of Bryce forced on him.