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I mean, the rules are the rules. Slides are legal. You blow up a sliding QB and it's called every single time in the scenario Shough was in. Should QBs be allowed to slide? Do I like that rule? No. Because I think sliding actually puts QBs in greater risk of serious injury and puts defenders in a horrible spot. But as far as what happened Sunday? There was no other way for the refs to call it different than they did.

Not just the defense the team in general, very disappointed on how undisciplined this team was off a bye

lol...can't disagree with that rather elegant discription.

Im firing the BFF Brad Idzik. Bring in a true OC that's a X and O master, bonus it allows Dave to focus on HC while the new OC calls plays and bring a different mindset/ideas.

We had 8 and the Saints had 8. But yeah, the defense couldn't stop them after the first quarter even with having them at 3rd and long multiple times ( they punted twice in the first quarter and never had to punt again).

We are .500 right now and hot and cold which is a sign of a young team. We are in the playoff race because our division is pretty bad. If these teams get better (Bucs healthy and the Saints aren't as far off as people think) it gets a lot tougher. Even if we get in the playoffs we are a ways away from being competitive there yet IMO. Of course a lot can change in one offseason and we are trending in the right direction.

If you can see your LTs blocking infront of you then it's not a blind side...that's when he should have stepped up. That's just running back too far out of protection and that's on Bryce. Going to be interesting to see if they credit Bryce or Ickey with the sack. Im guessing Bryce. If you feel the compulsive need to make excuses and then blame others blindly then maybe don't point fingers? I crap on Bryce but when he earns it. This was on him IMO

I am down with that but his price tag is going to possibly be problematic for KC. Minshew is on a league minimum deal and they are projected to be $44 mil over the cap at the beginning of next offseason. A $4.2 mil backup might actually be a little pricey in their situation.

Okay and we are this close now without any of that. I mean, we might not be deep, but as long as we get the starters.

I'm fuming about this play still. QBs should not be rewarded for these decisions. And I can't believe people think it is reasonable to expect a defender, in an important moment of the game, to react in less than a second to what a QB, who has established himself as a running QB in this league, may do. https://x.com/fsh733/status/2000362698471768161?s=20 He went for the tackle at the same time Shough began to slide. We're not talking about a guy scrambling out of the pocket. HE WAS THE DESIGNATED RUNNER! And it wasn't even a big hit. Just one of the most BS ways to decide a game that I have ever seen.

If we are planning on moving on, especially as a trade, it is literally only going to be this offseason. With that 5th year picked up, he will have zero interest or next to zero interest in the 2026 or 2027 trade market.

I don't know if you are or were 90s wrestling fan or Scott Hall fan, if so enjoy the laugh- Mike Tyson was also 300 LBs and had a super bad coke problem...

Yeah, it's crazy the level of wanton ignorance there seems to be about all this. As you said, I'd be amped up to have gotten a backup QB this solid in Day 3 of the draft. But #1 overall???? This just isn't something we are going to be able to bet the future on. And especially when the instances of him showing any shred of elite play are so incredibly fleeting. It's like banking the entire future of the franchise on a couple of laser passes by PJ Walker.

Time to start that QB contract clock over, and continue building this team up; in particular, the defense. If you could get rid of Bryce this offseason, I’d do it

As much as I hate to say it, Bryce to KC this offseason could make sense. Reid could be one of the only minds to be able to do something there. Bryce plays on his final year while Mahomes recovers. Not the ending we hoped for but one I'd take.

I'm just kinda baffled by it. He was a #1 overall pick that we traded a king's ransom for because we were betting on him being a game changer and yet there's a decent chunk of the fanbase that wants to treat him like a mid-round pick drafted to be a likely backup. If we'd drafted Bryce in say the 4th round and he was a backup forced into action I'd be singing his praises. We would be getting pretty decent play based on the level of expectations. I'd be saying you can't move forward with this guy as a starter because of his low ceiling but as a mid-round backup QB I can't really be mad at how he's playing. This is what you expect out of a mid-round backup QB. But when you're getting mid-round backup QB play out of a third year #1 overall pick you've mortgaged the franchise for and have tried to tailor your offensive roster and play calling to support, you really need to be shifting the perspective to realizing that you it's time to move on.

If ya'll think that is a kill shot, then holy crap lol

Why not just have RBs slide on every single RB Dive? QBs should not be allowed to slide as a designated runner on a play designed to go right up the middle and then expect the defender to stop what he is doing in a millisecond. It is absolutely BS.

He could have felt it maybe sure, but it is the qb blind side for a reason. He read the blocking scheme and knew it was 1 on 1. Sometimes the defense wins too, you are going to blame bryce no matter what happens so Im not sure why im wasting my time telling you how youre wrong.

Insane that people are actually defending this lol

Yes. We have to win 2 and the Bucs have to lose 2, doesn't matter which way it happens. That's why losing yesterday was such a colossal let down.

I think we need to build around these two and hope Miller can stay healthy. Flip Melo and Miles for a great player or some picks to keep building this roster.

Honestly, I think Canales has almost regressed as a playcaller, if anything.

When you blitz and leave the middle of the field completly wide open every time, it will fail every time. Don't know why he continued to call that blitz when it continously never worked.

If the bucs win the next 2 and we somehow beat the Seahawks are we still eliminated?