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The bottom line is we saw long stretches this season where T-Mac wasn't even targeted. He had games where he went an entire half without seeing a pass thrown his way, and it lead to a bunch of games with 5 or less targets. If he's healthy and we're not up a stupid amount and only running the ball, I can't see him having more than a game or two next year with 5 or less targets. We were also only 22nd this year in pass attempts, and that was with a rookie #1 and no legitimate 2nd option for half the season. And even then, we were only 46 pass attempts above 31st place. If we go into next season with T-Mac improved in his 2nd season and a healthy Coker for 17 games, there is absolutely no reason for us to not throw it more. That right away increases both of their target totals without sacrificing any targets from each other or other players, add in them taking targets from the TEs and RBs on top of that, and your argument just doesn't hold water anymore. You can't look at targets/yards in a vacuum and think next year Coker just takes some from T-Mac. You have to look at the team as a whole and our situations this year and then project what will happen next year. If he's healthy for 17 games, I'd bet my life savings that T-Mac sees increases across the board, targets/catches/yards/TDs. Just as Coker will also see career highs in all categories, it's not one vs the other, it's shifting offensive strategy given our personnel, which next year will be much better for our passing game (QB issues aside).

C'mon now.... First, you can't switch up your argument once someone points out a major flaw in your point. You're saying we shouldn't expect a big increase in targets/yards for T-Mac, but then shift to talking about averages with Chase when I point out the significant leap he took there once you factor in his missing games. He saw an increase in targets in 5 less games, averages aside, he saw a significant increase in targets in his 2nd season, what he then did with those targets is actually irrelevant in this discussion. Puka seeing no increase is pointless, as he saw such an absurd amount of targets for a rookie, it's near impossible to see an increase. But the real issue in this post is that you think I'm proving your point by showing how Waddle had to share targets with Hill. Tyreek Hill was a 1st team All Pro who was 2nd in the NFL in yards that season. If you think Jaylen Waddle sharing targets with a 1st team All Pro and a future HOFer is even remotely in the same category as T-Mac needing to share targets with Coker... then you are certifiably insane, lol. If anything, you could make the argument that Coker is to Waddle as T-Mac is to Hill in that discussion (which would then lead to a serious increase in targets/yards for T-Mac). But even that is insane, as neither T-Mac or Coker will be as good as Hill and Waddle respectively that season. I love both of their potential, but c'mon now, T-Mac isn't getting 119 catches for 1,700 yards and Coker isn't getting 117 for 1,350 next season.

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Dude was overrated. Beason should be in the HOF.

Just chasing targets is a fools game. Chase averaged 85 yrds and .76 TDs per game his first year and 87.16 yrds, and .75 TD's per game his second year. Statistically the same. NOT an improvement. Puka saw no increase either. Yes, Waddle's went down because he had to share targets with another receiver - just like TMac will have to share targets with Coker next year so you have actually just made my point concerning Coker. Olave saw an increase in targets but Carr replaced Dalton and even with the increase in targets, his production was pretty flat (83 extra yards and 1 more TD for the entire year). And Wilson's number did increase but the Jets replaced the other two receivers and their contribution was significantly down from Davis's and Moore's. Again, nothing in those numbers should lead anyone to believe there will be a big leap for Tmac next year.

See my previous post. You're also leaving out that T-Mac was likely hitting a rookie wall, like 95% of rookies do late in their first season, combined with the added attention on him by defenses, which in turn would be why Bryce looked Coker's way down the stretch. With Coker playing like that to start next year, defenses will have to pay attention to it, which will then also make things easier for T-Mac. All of which is also ignoring that T-Mac will just be a better player next year than he was this year, assuming he works on his game this offseason, which we all know he will be. If a player who was already your clear cut #1 comes back even better his next season, you're going to make sure you're throwing it his way more often, no matter who else you have. Again, Coker's added targets won't be at the expense of T-Mac's, they will BOTH be taking targets from the rest of the team. Not to mention, we should be passing it more next year to begin with, seeing as we'll have both of them hopefully ready to go full speed Week 1, which again, will help both their target totals increase. Coker looks like a really good player, but even the most optimistic person can't say he looks like he has #1 potential, he has very solid to maybe even high end #2 potential. You're not taking targets away from the reigning OROY who looks like a true Top 15 WR already to get your #2 targets, you increase both of them by taking from the others.

Need to crush the hawks tonight. A lose would really damage momentum

Sorry, but this is a terrible breakdown that doesn't at all show what you're trying to say/project about T-Mac next year, as it leaves out key information that changes everything, it makes the opposite point that you're trying to. Chase missed 5 games that second season after playing all 17 as a rookie (and still saw more targets that second season). Puka it looks like you projected his stats out to a 17 game season (as he only played 11 games), but even still , when you have 160+ targets as a rookie, there isn't really much room to get any more the next year. Waddle saw an increase in yards, and sure, his targets went down, but he played on a team with a better WR that year who saw 170 targets for 1,710 yards during that 2nd season for Waddle... something T-Mac doesn't have to contend with on the same team (280+ targets for their top 2 WRs, if you don't think T-Mac would see more than 122 targets if him and Coker combined for 287, then you're nuts). Then Olave and Wilson both saw an increase of 19 targets in their second season. You basically just laid out the reasoning for why T-Mac should see at least 20 more targets next year, if not more, which would be a solid increase and put him easily into the Top 10 most targeted WR next season.

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Not to take anything away from Tmac, but I disagree. Here are their stats showing Tmac's numbers prior to Coker and then once Coker got up to speed. I don't know how you can look at those numbers and still expect Tmacs numbers to significantly increase. Again, not taking anything away from TMac, but having Coker means you do not have to forcefeed Tmac. I think Tmac's catch rate and YPC will go up, but it would not surprise me if the targets stay the same or drop a little. That is assuming Coker stays healthy.

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Tepper represented the Panthers organization very well here. I hove him

Here's are some other 1st round WR picks second year compared to their 1st. As you can see, they all stayed pretty much the same. Smith-Njigba is an exception but they brought Mike Macdonald in as the HC his second year which I think explains that. Again, I think anyone expecting significantly more targets and yardage will be disappointed.

It's also possible to go 0-17, or 17-0. I didn't even include our own division in that, with Tampa and Atlanta both equalling our win total, and the damn Saints sweeping us. Double digit wins. Might be more than a long shot. But hey, anything is possible. There is no starting caliber left tackle. XL is absolutely not a top 2 wr. The linebacker group may very well be the worst in the league. There is no pass rush. The top cb may not even be the best cb on the team. And I haven't even mentioned whatever Young is. I know, I know, maybe they will just be better next year! 8 wins, and a struggle to get to that, but somehow a 25% increase in wins should be a given. With what reasoning? fuging magic? It's the Panther way.

This is pretty telling. Why Sexton got traded and they hope White fixes this problem at least somewhat.

Yawn. Hes not white. Not really a big deal.

far they were not perfect I agree on that

Everyone seems to forget that Rivera never made any changes until it was too late.

We shouldve wont a couple SBs, but Rivera was too set in his ways and Shula wasnt creative enough.

Curling ranks right up there with Ribbon Twirling except less strenuous.

Me neither but Nix plus all those trade assets vs. Bryce minus all those assets is a no brainer