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I don't believe this at all.
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His PPG actually did go up a little in Colorado. We will see. I still sort of believe we saw pretty close to the peak of his abilities last year. Not wishing him ill or trashing him in any way. Just tend to believe we did sell high and correctly so.
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Barnwell - Ranking WR, TE, RB Groups in NFL
kungfoodude replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well, other teams also had an offseason. I honestly agree with him. Right now I have way more faith in Coker ascending then I do XL. I think it's the TE/WR group dragging us down. Plus he does mention that the list was made with WR's very much valued more than RB's and TE's(I understand the thought process). In that context, we have a very aging AT, two "wait and see" second year players(one leaning bust) and a rookie. I really think this is a very fair rating, on paper and in the offseason. Quite frankly, aside from the aforementioned and aging AT, this is a bunch of guys still trying to prove themselves. Then when you go to TE, it's easily a bottom 3-4 unit on paper. That is probably being extremely generous. RB is where we make our hay. Probably a top 5-10 unit. But....he mentions early in the article that he doesn't value the RB units as much. So, really, it's the weighting of the skill positions that is what really fugs us. -
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Captain Morgan replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think over the next 2 weeks we'll sign a safety, and perhaps also a corner. - Today
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ForJimmy replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
I was just referring to how we always do poorly when expectations are high and in our better years (yes it's been a while) we did best under the radar. -
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frankw replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
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In hindsight JB wasn't to blame for the lacking culture. He did what he could with a LaMelo Ball led team. That doesn't mean he was the long term answer either. Different things can be true at one time.
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What are y'all grilling/smoking with ??
HaricotVert replied to Mayor Qumiby's topic in Huddle Lounge
Ive relied on snakes for shoulders and ribs but the venom sounds awesome -
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PanthersNCSU replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah there's definitely homer-tinted glasses fueling part of me here. And other fans could say the same things, I just can't see us being behind the Pats, Browns, and even some teams that are higher up on the list like the Saints. Chuba & Rico is a Top 10 RB tandem at worst IMO. Allow for some Theilen regression, but expect T-Mac to be *something*, XL to improve even a little, and Coker to be Coker. Toss in promise from the TEs, and I just can't see 31. A lot of if ands and buts for us and every team, but just seems wild to me. -
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mrcompletely11 replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Its the nfl, I dont think it matters either way. Although personally I like reading national guys giving their take on us and I prefer when its on the more positive side but God knows its been a while for that. -
They haven't been that since they stupidly fired jb
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Camp Fodder replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
What’s the chances Ransom starts week 1 at safety? -
Why would you be surprised? He’s only 26. Necas continued that scoring clip after being traded to Avs. His combined totals for the regular season were 27 goals 83 points in 79 games! KK not even a comparison. Agree he has had a drop off in playoffs and can’t put my finger on the cause other than facing great teams.
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PantherKyle replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
we're almost there boys -
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Pejorative Miscreant replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
I hear you, agree and found it surprising as well, but respectfully, what’s the difference? Bottom tier until proven otherwise but I hope the players see all this and prove the writers incorrect . -
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ForJimmy replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
This would mean we are flying under the radar which is what we want right? -
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mav1234 replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Given our rushing attacks rank last year and the clear upgrades behind Chuba, I really do not understand this ranking. I get out TE and WR room have a lot to prove but this seems a bit crazy -
Lol Janakowski provides more offense. A smart move would be putting Jarvis at 2C
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Much like the other local team here they should be at least marginally better but I think most people are tempering expectations. Right now the floor is a basketball team worth watching and rooting for. Anything else is merely a surprise bonus.
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pantherclaw replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
It's July, and ain't no one going to go out on a limb for any team ir set of players they dont have personal ties to. -
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PanthersNCSU replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
The homer in me has us closer to 25, but even then, a lot to prove. If our Skill positions are 31, OL lets just say 10, and QB is 25...it's going to be a long year and changes are coming (again). If that skill position group isn't ranking around 20 next year at minimum, it probably means we're finding a new QB and coach. -
Apparently the Canes have had multiple offers for KK, but have turned them down since they don't have someone to take over as the 2nd center.
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Jackie Lee replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I like how camp starts then it's preseason before you know it. These will be much more entertaining than the usual preseason broadcasts if they actually get their own anouncers -
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OneBadCat replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah that’s bs. This group is potentially pretty damn stacked. Should at least be upper 20s. -
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TD alt replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
That kind of buttresses the argument that he was simply dealing in generalities, at best really, and doesn't understand the nuances of the Panthers. I mean, honestly, how difficult is it to get the round correct these days? It's indicative of sloppy and lazy journalism.
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