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I wanted to give Bryce one last chance but he has proven for 2.5 years who he is. They have built everything around him and he still continues to fail miserably. I'm fully out on Bryce. Canales I want to give another shot. I do think him and Morgan are building something and I do think the whole roster is getting better bit by bit. But Bryce is so limited he's an anchor on this team dragging everything down. He needs to go. Rebuild the entire qb room with no tepper strings attached and I do think the team will improve.

Nothing will change this year, we are locked into what we have. I'm sure we'll limp out with another win or two, but I am 100% out on Bryce and refuse to waste my weekend time watching any more as it's just too frustrating. We aren't a fun team to watch and haven't been for years. It sucks, but I'm over it...this is the pre-Cam Panther era again for me..nothing to see here.

If Tepper is still trying to force it because of the shitty trade that is really bad. Maybe DC is still trying to hang on to his QB whisperer reputation, who knows, but it's all for nothing at this point. Give him a third phantom injury and sign someone off the couch lol. Can't be any worse and may catch a couple teams off guard.

We would legit be the Colts of the NFC with an average vet QB. Just look at both team’s philosophy and composition. Strong O-Line and run game with a bend, don’t break defense.

It's BAD bad...to the point where you think it's intentional that they knowingly send someone so bad out week after week, like we know what we're gonna get and do it anyway. All the traded picks are behind us, it's ok to just move on. I think we will this offseason. There is absolutely NOTHING to be or get excited about if we commit to him going into next year.

I generated a few quick histogram of his passing compared to Jake and Cam. Bryce - 182 mean passing YPG Jake - 212 mean passing YPG Cam - 223 mean passing YPG (this does not include rushing - he averaged 38 rushing yards per game!) Bryce literally has more 80-124 yard games than games with over 260 yards. This is the longest sustained stretch of ineptitude we've ever seen at QB. Compare this to Cam, who averaged 219 yards a game. 68% of Bryce's games were less than that. Jake also has a midloaded distribution. Bryce is the outlier

Yep to the condensed playing field we are working with. Defense has all kinds of advantages. Hia balls up the middle seem to have velocity if he is mechanically sound. But in general and especially the boundary stuff, he doesn’t have a lot zip. So one more advantage to coverage guys.

After this week do they bring back Mike White? Who cares about who we have to cut at this point. Our offense couldn't beat last years defense right now with the way Bryce is playing.

I'd rather watch Mike White actually try to play well than watch Bryce or Dalton go through the motions, regardless of the game outcome. Please find someone that actually is actually NFL size, young, and desperate for money lol.

It's kind of depressing getting older and realizing people never actually saw Jake play. His whole thing was downfield chunks to Steve Smith, even in this 2008 bum arm year he led the league in yards per completion lol. Fox was "conservative" but we were basically a power run team with an air coryell passing attack.

Also you don’t have to take a QB in the 1st or 2nd round. Maybe someone’s there in the 6th that’s interesting. Hell there were plenty of UDFAs more interesting than Jack Plummer and a broken down Andy Dalton this past offseason.

I think Jayden Maiava is a logical target. I assume Mendoza, Simpson and Moore are gone providing they all come out. Maiava should be easily available in the second at least by current projections. I don’t want to mess with a small QB (like Mateer). Sellers ain’t ready and Nessimeyer and Allar ain’t it. Still think Carson Beck could help as a developmental back up.

Hey I know I am mean lol. Just tired of this grind of going along with this years long thing that has never really been good. He is a good kid trying to make his dream. I would say he has had it. Hiesnam Trophy , number one overall in the NFL Draft, 2 plus years starting at QB in the NFL… he seriously overachieved for his size.

Guys with career altering/ending injuries. And that’s what we started with. Shuddering.

Sounds like an on the field leadership problem.

Isn't that Morgan and teppers choice?

Canalas doesn’t have the balls to bring in another QB to challenge Bryce. They need to draft a replacement and let Bryce backup until they can trade him for a late round pick. But Canalass won’t do it

Not today he wasn't

Maybe we need to convene the leadership council.

Probably could insert 10 or 15 different names we could have picked up this offseason and still say the same thing.

Don’t be so sure.

If I thought the league was crooked, and I might think that, yeah it had that feel to it. They tried their best. Anything more would be too overt, you can’t win them all.

So here's my thing. Either the QB room was his call in which case, I don't trust him to pick toilet paper for a campground bathroom, or Tepper didn't step back and is indeed dictating the moves of this organization like many of us have been saying all along. I don't think he's stepped back at all and has doubled and even tripled down on proving his decision to draft Bryce was the correct one. My suspicion is even if Bryce is not extended or his 5th year signed, Tepper will once again mortgage the farm to trade up and prove his superiority again and draft his guy. And if what I suspect is correct, and a lowly fan like myself sees it, anyone with any actual football experience is going to see it too and stay the hell away from this franchise. I don't know why Roger Goodell and the rest of the owners punished the fans by selling the franchise to Tepper. Wasn't Super Bowl 50 and watching Cam get speared over and over to the head a big enough fug you?

Good kid. Unimpressive as an athlete. I’d beat him at everything that matters

Is he blessed?