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wasnt directed at you personally just saying the supporters are saying he is "progressing" but at some point he either is the guy or isnt. His "progression" is at a damn snails pace and you simply cannot afford to ride him out for 5 years hoping he makes a monumental leap.

I'm just speaking on the staff picking up the option... I've been said we need another guy in that room...

Definitely does!!

In theory we can get out but its going to cost us. Thats why picking up the 5th was always stupid. If he hasnt shown he is the franchise guy by year 4 what the fug is giving him a 5th going to do?

How many years are we going to keep saying this?

“Led” By your logic, Bryce Young led the Panthers to the NFC South title.

With you on the first paragraph. Want a vet LB that can play fast out of the gate, these young guys have to think too much. We need at least one good veteran upgrade there and if we can draft a promising player to pair up with a vet, so much the better. Do the best we can at edge, just don’t force it too hard if it doesn’t fall our way. Now, Coker? He got what, 140, 150 yards in his first playoff game? We can hold off on upgrading him for my money. I yield to the people who have been asking for the speed factor at WR. Get someone cat quick who can juke someone, and get up after a hit. If possible. I really hardly care that about TE. No high picks on one please. There should be a lot of them out there, sign one.

i had forgotten about san fran wonder of mac jones will have the same resurgance after shanahan works with him. vikings fans have it even worse then panther fans though bc they let him leave when he was actually good

I want Styles in round 1 but we would definitely have to trde up above the Cowboys to get him.

We for sure need another legit pass catching threat but not sure id bank on Sadiq. I can think of three positions to address in the first and TE/WR ain't it.

Edge and LB. I agree with the above poster that said edges take a while, so I wouldnt count out Prince just yet. Grab a high level vet at edge and hit LB as the first pick and grab a mid-level LB to pair with the young guy. Then get a real number 2 passing threat. No Coker is not a number 2....even if he becomes that no negative in having another legit threat. Be it a high level pass catching tight end or another WR. Hell or both.

You cant live life this. Always wringing your hands about what could have been. Truth is as an organization we weren't ready to be responsible so we missed the opportunities when they presented themselves. Thats what we are really mad about, not missed players but having an organization that was (is?--seems to be much better) dysfunctional. Fix the foundation and the wins come, quit looking for heros to solve all the other problems that should be addressed.

Remember his board telling me how crazy I was that we could build around him without trading all of our assets. You guys just wanted that 1st overall pick for a QB prospect so bad.

He’s a bitch

He got benched for THE……P.J. Walker

It's funny...we had Drake Maye...

Hard to say. He definitely learned from his stops in SF and Minn.

He's headed to the ground after taking a step (a football move lol). They definitely haven't been officiating that consistently but I've seen similar plays be completions.

We need a solid vet to pair with a rookie in my opinion plus grab veteran edge

He will forever get Panthers team chem in Madden Ultimate Team

Screams Jets throws some money at him so they can maybe go QB next year

I'm happy for Sam. I hope we wins the Superbowl.

Shoulda woulda coulda, I'm happy for Sam, and I hope he wins the bowl. We have who we have now, deal with it or move on. Sam now, wasn't Sam when we had him. You could say he needed to go through Carolina to get to where he is now.

Would rather spend big on an edge rusher and address MLB in the draft, we need a vet edge who can step in from day 1 and be our best pass rusher, better than Scourton who I think has great potential. We're not getting that in the draft this year, use that on MLB or an OT if there is a starter there and then take a MLB in the 2nd. That would be a much better way to allocate the cap to the starting lineup while giving us the best results as well.

I have to say, whatever the reason was, Baker was not good here, there was little indication he was gonna be good. Other than that I pretty much blame Tepper for the first 7 years of his stewardship being pure misery and full of fugtardedness. Things were finally somewhat improved upon in year 8. No coach under Tepper even smelled 8 wins before. And that coach did it with Bryce Young. While most people hated on him.