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I think lame elo has got to go. He's a drain on attitude and effort for the rest of the team because he's too cool to work hard

He. Has. The. Highest. Paid. OL. In. The. Entire. League. Nobody is absolving Icky for getting penalized. But Icky is not the face of the franchise. Icky is not currently the third highest paid player on the team. Icky did not get outplayed by Tyler Shough who was sacked 5 times and consistently harassed by our DL. We aren't going to agree. It's fine. Good day sir!

I say we do 1 better and make him the blocking dummy the rest of the season...

What LT never gets beat?

Why cant we do that?

Except with Bryce. Chris doesn't like him. Even when they do well, he finds faults with him.

Not holding your 1st round LT to the same standard is equally as embarrassingly foolish. Like what QB in the league avoids every rush like that? Every time? That's not realistic. In the same game, Shough got caught up in the trash a lot more than that. And the rush wasn't nearly as fast.

I'll go other and hope Tepper fires himself into the sun... Edit: Just saw your top post, I will go DC then. We all know we will move on from Bryce, but even if we had the best offensive talent in the league, DC would still manage to call ass plays and have us averaging like 17 points a game

He definitely came up short yesterday

The video made a good point about this just when do you ever as a fan feel like bryce can be counted on. Every week I tend to think ok how are the panthers gonna barely get a win by overcoming the Byoung limitations, and every week I see these qbs that are suppose to be worse than young look better than him. Like honestly shough looked alot better than 3rd year young. Its not suppose to be like that I hope they bring in someone else this team is a 3-5 win team that lucked into alot of wins this year with crazy good coaching, defense, and running back play.

No sir! I call it when he makes a bad play or has a bad game over all. That is not on the QB. He avoided that same pressure the play before and after, but expecting your QB to be superman and hide other players getting beaten that badly that fast is not realistic. For any QB.

In our last 2 wins the offense had to put over 30 or more points (actually 24 against the Rams since we had a pick 6, but Bryce threw 3 TDs that game with 0 turnovers so I'm not blaming that on him). I'm not sure that falls on the QB not putting away the other team. The defense is easily exposed against decent offenses. Just throw over the middle.

Dumping on Icky to cover for our #1 pick being outplayed by a rookie is such embarrassing foolishness.

This truly has been a recurring theme this year. Once we get to 1st and 15 or worse, it's a guaranteed punt or turnover

How do you get that fat with a coke problem him and Billy Joel I swear

Our gameplan was do the exact thing we did against the Saints the first time when we lost and the result was we lost to the Saints again...

All of this. People mention that Ickey penalty in the first or second quarter. I’ve seen a few say that stopped all our momentum, and was a reason the offense couldn’t get going. If all it took was that to completely stymy Bryce and the offense, then the QB and offense isn’t very good. Now, it was a boneheaded play, but that happened in the first half. Your QB has to be able to move on from that Another thing is the sacks. Once Bryce takes a sack, or we get a penalty of any kind, then that drive is over. Bryce and the offense cannot overcome it. On that last 4th quarter drive, I knew we weren’t going to do anything with the football, but after the sack, I knew it was wrap. The Saints are in Bryce’s head, and he’s a QB that has to build up confidence. Hell, Tampa is in his head. He’s 0-4 against them. That’s why I can say with confidence we won’t sweep them.

I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face because y'all are not reading between the lines on these 11 GWDs. Wow, that sounds amazing, 11 GWDs!!! Sometimes stats need some context beyond the surface. The deeper dive is Bryce cannot put games away early enough to keep from these last minute victories. This is completely unsustainable. It's either a blow out loss, respectable loss, close loss or a nail-biting last minute win. Bryce has exactly ONE, you know, a notch up form zero, comfortable wins. We all know it was that first Falcons game early this season. This man has 2-3 big boy throws a game and 2-3 NFL above average games a season at this rate. Tell me how this is sustainable? It isn't.

He stepped away from the media (part due to bad PR, part due to the league forcing him to after throwing a drink and checking a bar owner for a sign they put up). Do you believe for a second that he just magically backed off behind the scenes and does not have his weekly meetings with the Gm and Coach?

Icky didn't do well on the play, but I find it hard to believe Bryce doesn't at least sense that pressure from Chase Young in his periphery. With the area of the field he is looking + Moton blocking his guy and forcing him into a deep pass rush, I don't know how Bryce doesn't see the 20 yards of open space directly in front of him.... Like 90% of QBs recognize that open space and immediately run

when you're like 120 lbs overweight that tends to happen

Dude Tepper hasn’t been around like the last two years. You’re brining up stuff from half a decade ago lol New owner hires two guys that sound like they know what they are doing (Rhule/Fitterer) they do significant damage to the team and he’s trusting real football guys (Morgan/Tillis) to fix it, and you expect it to be done already.

Def not rigged. I would agree that the quality of the games in general has DRASTICALLY gone down in recent years, though. And a lot of that has to do with the refs.