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Jon Snow replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
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CarolinaLivin replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
Who is that in the profile pic? XL? -
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Mr. Scot replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
Anybody got a clue what this is supposed to mean? -
I figured as much. Hopefully he's just resting up and will be ready for round 3 (if we make it that far.) Sucks to see. Hes been our best defender (besides Slavin) in the playoffs so far.
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I've never bought into the idea. There's just too much at stake, even for front office people. Jobs are lost, trust is lessened, lives are altered, reputations are damaged and more. Throw in that the average front office person isn't as young as the average player. They may not have ten years ahead of them to salvage their careers. Any given year could be their last. The only person not guaranteed to suffer some direct form of consequence from losing is the owner, and even there you still have problems (fan reaction, team reputation, revenue, etc). You've also got massive egos in play on that front so it can get personal. Mind you, I do accept that there are "fire sales" in order to build for the future, but even those have consequences. They don't exactly guarantee success either. Poorly run teams often just wind up in the same circumstance a few years down the road. Sorry gus, but my tinfoil hat just hasn't fit me for quite a while.
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That's a lot of players that have to be replaced with draft picks in the next 2 seasons to realize those cap savings. And even then you have to spend those savings on replacements. This team is still upside-down with its cap commitments and it is going to take awhile to get it corrected.
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frankw replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
Certainly a really cool fact to consider. Unfortunately it's tempered a bit by the fact that the last time Bryce Young started against the Jaguars in Jacksonville we got taken to the woodshed and they were starting backup QB C.J. Beathard. -
This does certainly look interesting. On a side note I've always been a very big fan of Nicolas Cage's work but I was surprised to learn he has a son who he supports that practically beat his own mother to death last summer and all he got was 2 years in a mental health program. I guess that's wealth and fame for you.
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Mr. Scot replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
Have seen this sentiment expressed in a few different places... -
Not the way any of us wanted it to happen...
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rayzor replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
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philw5289 replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
Both times we’ve played the Jags week 1 we’ve gone on to go to the superbowl -
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LondonderryPanther replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
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falconlynx replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
I remember a Josh Norman pick 6 saving the day -
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Jay Roosevelt replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't hate @ Jacksonville week 1. Anyone remember how we ended up doing the last time we started the season in Jacksonville? -
The Bucs absolutely tanked the last game of the season in order to draft Winston. It happens. In regards to the lottery, there has always been way too much smoke for there to be nothing burning there. Always has been way too much coincidence, and little visibility. Even if it was all on the up and up, the league has to know there is this negative perception, and they do nothing to change or remedy it.
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ESPN's Top 10 Impact Rookies(non-1st Round)
Icege replied to kungfoodude's topic in Carolina Panthers
Base for run downs: Scourton-Brown-Brown III-Robinson-Wonnum Base for passing downs: Scourton-Brown-Jackson-Wharton-Umanmielen I can dig it... -
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CarolinaLivin replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
Thought I’d take a look at a jaguars forum, one person said “at least we will start the season with a guaranteed win” -
I probably would have become a casual Hornets fan if Cooper ended up there, but the NBA just solidified my apathy for its product. Hornets also got shafted when Lakers got cold feet on the Mark Williams trade. NBA is corrupt and that alien-headed Silver is the kingpin.
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Most analysts from what I've seen are projecting next year's cap as closer to $298M but as high as in the low 300s. We saw a $24M increase this season, $31M increase last season, and $16M prior to that. There's also the inevitable cap casualties... A'Shawn Robinson being cut saves the team $8.5M. Damien Lewis would save $9M. BB3, Jewell, PJ2 all would save $5M each. Tremble and Mike Jackson could save $4M each. It wouldn't surprise me to see the team make a few moves that end up giving them closer to $50M in cap space to start 2026. I'm less worried about next year's cap space due to the upcoming UFAs for the team: TMo, AT, Tuttle, Wonnum, Nijman, Mays, Corbett, BC, Dowdle, Rozeboom, Martin, Rhattigan, Jansen, Scott... the only FAs I'm seeing on Spotrac outside of TMo that are must keeps are ERFAs Coker + Demani (so long as TMo's knee is fine, of course). 2027 on the other hand is going to be the offseason for Bryce's bonus option with Icky being the most significant UFA. PJ2, A'Shawn, Josey, MJackson, Tremble, Dalton, DJ Johnson, Zavala, and Bartholomew are the only other current FAs then. I'm of the opinion that they are all in on next season and if it doesn't go well, it's being blown up and starting from scratch. They're currently estimated to have $130M in free cap space in 2027.
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Panthercougar68 replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
Cardinals at saints week 1 makes me think our week 2 will be Saints at Panthers -
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PNW_PantherMan replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
I am beginning preparations for my week 1 overreaction now. -
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X-Clown replied to PanthersATL's topic in Carolina Panthers
Ravens at Bills Week 1 -
Sure, there's definitely a chance that a fire sale in 2022 could've paid off but I don't think that's a certainty. It's not just about stockpiling the picks and bettering odds; it's about hitting on those picks, having a stable coaching staff to develop them, and keeping the locker room engaged. We didn't exactly have a model front office nor stable coaching staff in 2022. It's worth noting that part of the reason that DJ had to be included in the trade up for #1 was because the Bears needed an immediate, proven WR1 to help Fields. It was him or another immediate first-round pick, not a future one like what was being offered for Burns (whom teams knew that things were shaky with and that they could afford to wait). As for the Eagles, they recovered because the foundation was already in place. Pederson got flak and was ultimately fired (and was just fired again this offseason from the Jags). Their recovery was quick because the foundation was already in place: Howie Roseman and a solid roster (that included a stacked OL, a second year QB, and a veteran defense). Philly had a margin of error that just wasn't available to Carolina. I'm not against using the draft to rebuild, but a full-on teardown comes with real consequences: fan disengagement, a fractured locker room, poor development, a losing environment... and I don't believe that we had the necessary leadership at the time to cleanly navigate it. That's a gamble that I want no part of. Now that we do have a staff that seems to be in complete alignment and building for the future rather than fighting for their jobs, I'm more inclined to observe their process and see where it leads rather than backseat driving with "perfect" hindsight.
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I see it a bit differently considering there is only 20M in cap space. Given how many of the premium positions are on rookie contracts their cap should not be nearly maxed out. Tillis still has a lot of work to do before these rookies will need a second contract.
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