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  2. He's totally going to get another year or two here with his own QB. 100% going to happen.
  3. Im not saying Bryce sucks or doesnt suck, the conversation is about TMac and saying he played a solid game.
  4. It’s already over for Bryce. After 2 years of bad football, we don’t need to see anymore. Let him pull a Clausen and play all year to give us that number 1 pick and draft an actual qb. Who would that be? Manning? The kid from Penn State. Joey Aguilar from TN/app?
  5. Why would he? What has Bryce done on the field to gain trust? Even if he did a great job in the off-season and through camp he has now gone out there on the field in a game that matters and looked like absolute dog poo. Again. That has happened over and over again during his brief career. How can you have trust in a guy that does that? Ultimately trust has to be earned and I can't see what Bryce has done on the field in games that matter to earn it.
  6. More than generous. It's detached from reality. Which is what pretty much all each of these takes in defense of him have become. Fully detached from reality.
  7. To me a "drop" is a perfectly thrown ball to an open receiver, not a contested catch, not a ball that could've been caught with a Herculean effort, etc. There's a difference between a "drop" and a ball that should've been caught and a ball that maybe could've been caught. Not even Bryce's mom would've watched that game and counted 10 drops. That's just an absurd argument to make.
  8. All you haters will eat your crow-jangles when Bryce breaks the unseen yards and unseen touchdown records, and wins the unseen MVP. I, for one, will be there when he is inducted into the unseen hall of fame...if I can find it.
  9. It's so weak. They will play someone soon who comes in off of a lazy weak after watching our film and it will be all amazing over mid level stuff agaisnt a team having a crap day again too. It damn sure is what it is. Also are drops automatically on the WRs? Do they not get an adjustment for getting their hands on poorly thrown balls too?
  10. Astute observers know that Young is a starting NFL qb in name only. The data points only verify what most can plainly see. Now, how about some big time throws?
  11. He needs to truly clean house. Like fire everyone except the cheerleaders and the concessions staff. No more half measures
  12. I mean did you see Russell Wilson play Sunday? He was leagues worse than Bryce Young. Honestly some of you are just so stuck in the mud that you think the Panthers are the only team with subpar QB play. Caleb Williams would have had the exact same performance against Jacksonville if he was our QB. Bringing in some jackoff like Aiden OConnell or Sam Howell isn't scoring any more points.
  13. NVM everything is out now. 2025 Base - 1.25m Signing bonus - 19.185m Roster - 3m Workout - 200k Cap - 23640418 Dead - 58647918 2026 base 13.195m Signing bonus - 6937500 Roster - 500k Workout - 500k Cap - 21132500 Dead - 35007500 2027 Base - 20m Signing bonus - 6937500 Roster - 500k Workout - 500k Cap - 28437500 Dead - 13857500 2028 Signing bonus - 6937500 Cap - 6937500 Dead - 6937500 So there we go. Everything guaranteed is paid this year and next year except for the signing bonus. So he can get cut after next season with a dead hit of 13,857,500. Making this really a two year deal worth 40m.
  14. I don't really care at this point. DC didn't bring poo but Dalton and Hooker. He didn't drsft Young but absolutely signed up to be tied to him. He can spin it however he wants but those are facts. Maybe he will learn from this and stop making poor decisions...if he gets another shot after this mess. He could go back to being stuck as a QB coach if it keeps up the pace.
  15. The guy was a #1 overall pick that we traded a fortune to get. When you make that move you realize it's going to create other roster holes and you're betting that this guy is going to carry the team through those holes. That's the bet you're making to make that move. Then you still have people complaining that we don't have a roster of all pros everywhere else to carry the guy. Just stop. We made a terrible bet and we lost the house on it. It is what it is.
  16. This is why it doesn't matter if Young is cut, traded or starts, or if Canales is fired or given a contract extension. The results will always be the same. The team hires shitty coaches and acquires shitty QBs. Fine by me to churn again, but at least you and I know it won't make a single bit of difference to the W-L column.
  17. Simply running to the first down marker instead of throwing it to a waiting Jags defender on his first INT. Not terribly under throwing the deep ball to Renfrow that should've been a walk in TD. Not sailing the ball over Renfrow's head on the sideline that would've been a big play with a decent throw and another possible TD with a good throw. Throwing the ball to an open Sanders in the endzone instead of sailing it 20 feet over everyone's head leading to a turnover on downs. There were plays to be made and Bryce simply didn't make them. Kinda the main story of his entire career.
  18. The proper question is, what good coach with any other options would take the job? Money does not solve the problem. There's no quick fix for this despite what fans think of the players. The problems go much deeper with this organization.
  19. He didn't account for the missed opportunity throws where guys were wide open but not thrown to when adding in those 10 catches. With Bryce it's always weighted but in a favorable light. That poo is so old. How about 'just stop trying g to throw to XL' and call it within the norm at that point.
  20. Again, his underthrown balls helped tmac in this game because tmac wasnt separated. In this singular game, what play would he have had greatly improved numbers from?
  21. Already knew that. It's 2026/2027 and structuring that I don't know.
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