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No one here is going to argue with the fact that Reich was not up to the task and ultimately beyond his expiration date in the NFL. And yes many of the things Colts fans said comically came to fruition here. At the same time. We also don't need to go around doing the Tepper's bidding by blaming it solely on him. Because there is also the reality that even after we fired Reich the offense worsened. And even after purging his staff firing our GM and hiring a new coach the Panthers started out last season with two of the ugliest games in franchise history. Let's process the entire picture here but also recognize Reich was a convenient scapegoat as well.

I mean, Dan went out and spent more than every team in the NFL on our OL. Not sure that signature move is a sign of good roster building/management. Any GM can largely problem solve an area by going that route. And the OL is really the only position where we have actual answers. I don't equate what we have done w/ the DL being on par w/ the OL. I also don't think it's total fair to completely wipe Dan Morgan's existence from the vision and plans where he was asst GM. I'm still largely of the belief.....Fitterer just took the fall for what largely was a brainstrust that hasn't changed that much.

As soon as Frank signed the papers he had the $36M guaranteed. He didn't have to avoid getting fired to get it and seemingly made no effort to avoid getting fired. Truth be told he probably felt a good deal of relief that day and probably enjoyed a nice meal with his family that night discussing plans for retirement life away from football.

Footage of Josey full throttle chasing Bijon across the middle

Y’all just be talking. Frank had 36 million reasons not to do this, he was just awful at his job. He was exactly the same coach the Colts warned us about.

"Since Dan took over" is very recently. I'm talking a lot longer term than that. We honestly haven't seen enough yet to know if Dan's approach is going to work or not.

Not paying $30 a month for that.

It is really bizarre. I’m guessing it’s true that Tepper overruled and picked Bryce as his guy. Crazy what confidence and a change of scheme can do though. Bryce looked like a poor imitation of Taylor Heineke out there. With Canales he’s a different dude. Im still of the opinion that Steve Wilks earned that HC job and the quickest way to getting the team back on track was to keep that power offense with Foreman, draft Stroud, then sign Cam for one more go.

I expect to see a better team on the field this year.. pushing for 2nd place in the NFCS. We are not at the point to make a run against the Eagles or Detroit or even the Bucks at this point. I just want to see a team that is playing in meaningly games in December this year. More than that, I want to get a definitive answer on BY this year. Next year has to be the year to push.

All one has to do is look around the NFL and look at the teams without cemented elite QB's and see that they're front offices and coaching staffs are not content with just having a QB pushing 40 and an afterthought UDFA behind their penciled in starter. And no matter how optimistic we are about Bryce Young given how he finished last season the position is anything but cemented by him. If someone out there thinks that the Panthers are ahead of the curve above these other teams some of which have actually been to the playoffs at any point in the last decade that's their prerogative but it's sheer fantasy at this point.

Time will tell who was a bad pick at their spot. Nobody has played a down and football yet. Saying it over and over again doesn't make anybody smart or knowledgeable. Wait till the games are played.

Totally. It's also very relative to their development. I had a preferential eye on Penix, Daniels & Ward over the years and they were talked about as legit prospects dating back to 2022 (but opted to return/transfer/declare when they did respectively). Ward's ceiling is pretty dope - I'll always go back to the Was State/Oregon shootout in 2022 that got me fixed on him. He played ridiculous but also made a late iffy decision under pressure that ultimately became a 44-41 loss to Bo Nix and the Oregon machine. But man, he played super. At that time, I know Spielman and Sando had an insider pod talking about these future prospects and how Ward wasn't viewed super highly (yet) but had all the skill to be a top pick...could've been a 3rd/4th rounder in 2023. He kept developing the next year, could've gone higher in 2024, and then went to Miami and showed VAST pocket improvement, propelling him to the top of the draft. So it goes to show there's too many factors to make those year-to-year comparisons a lot of the time. Ward has always had the skillset, and he stayed in school, and showed his development was absolutely legit, became the top pick with more tape and less projection. Other teams are banking on development once drafted (McCarthy), which I'd honestly be a bit more nervous about than Ward. Although he has Kevin O'Connell along with JJ and Addison, which is about as good of a situation you can ask for haha.

I think that he was referring to Rhule and Fitterer's management. His last sentence suggests that he is hopeful in Dan's management. We'll know the answer by the time 2026 is done though.

All of our QBs have been 1-5 at some point. But as I expected you have no names just lots of words that mean nothing.

I still view this year as the real "prove it" one for Bryce. He was great to close out last, so we need to see that it has rolled over and continued to improve within a system that is much more tailored to his skillset. I want to be hopeful.....7yrs has been a long time.

Yeah I think Frank saw Bryce in his offense come that camp and was obviously quite petrified and had to play it cool/mask it. He wasn't a guy curating a modern offense around a player, he had a fixed system and philosophy that just didn't work with Bryce. Then the season rolled around and we saw what that looked like, and Bryce's psyche (and play of course) took a major hit. Combine that with his physical limitations, and it was the recipe for disaster that we all witnessed. Still won't forget how much our staff seemed to be gushing over CJ at his pro day. I still view this year as the real "prove it" one for Bryce. He was great to close out last, so we need to see that it has rolled over and continued to improve within a system that is much more tailored to his skillset.

The day he finally unloads the happenings of that entire process will be very entertaining. It will be very unkind to the Tepper's to say the least.

Watching Hunt's interview makes me think he's really taken the leadership role on offense for us which is huge given the youth we have. Bryce will of course continuing to mature into one but he's a guy I'm very happy to have, even if we're paying premium. I love the guy's energy. Easily one of my current faves:

100%. In his heart, he absolutely thought he’d have Stroud. What he may have promised will never be known, but I can’t imagine him taking the gig unless he would be allowed to get ‘his guy’. When BY was the pick and day 1 of camp concluded, Frank went in to ‘I’m too old for this ish’ mode. To me, His comments show that he holds no ill will with Bryce, but he is less than enamored with the org.

That’s not true at all. We’ve made some bad decisions, yes, but overall we absolutely are not doing what you stated since Dan took over. I agree with you with Fitt tho. Last year we heavily invested in OL and this year in DL. A mix of vet proven and young potential. Over those 2 years have also slowly built up the WR room. Those are long term foundational type moves. Assume the DL pans out as well as the OL did, you now start adding tier 2 pieces such as LB, S, and TE.

True, but on the flip side we didn’t know if TMac would be there at 8. You gotta roll with guesses at some point and then adapt as things change. Let’s see what Morgan does

I don't think he did it to spite Bryce. Seems like Bryce is a truly decent guy that virtually everyone likes. I do think Frank likely preferred Stroud and was either was led to believe or deluded himself into thinking that he would have a lot more say in the direction we went at QB in the draft. Once we decided on Bryce knowing Bryce didn't fit his system and preferences in a QB it really seemed like the wind went out of Frank's sails and he basically started mailing it in and just waited to get fired and paid out. Maybe I'm misreading the whole situation but that's certainly the way it looked to me from the outside looking in.

Again, it may have nothing to do with Bryce Young. The coaches are thinking about the whole roster. Many guys have said how much different this off-season has been not having to start from square 1 with a playbook, language, etc. You’re talking about bringing in a guy to lead the 2nd team offense who they now have to spend time teaching. Every team is different. This team is young and developing across the board and trying to find some positive continuity. With how Morgan and Canales have approached everything I’m fairly certain they considered all possibilities and decided it was best for the overall team to roll with Dalton for now. They value whatever it is they feel Dalton brings over the extremely low probability of whatever washed out, journey man, reclamation project developing into a franchise QB. You and I have no idea why and aren’t there in the meetings, but it’s clear that the FO sees this young failed franchise QB project as less likely to pan out than you do.

Frank justed wanted to throw Young to the wolves because he wanted to draft Stroud. It was a big FU to Tepper and that is why he only lasted a few games before getting canned.

I would love to have seen ESPN buy all of NFL Films. Surprised INSIDE THE NFL never moved to ESPN (it hasn't been the same since it left HBO for Showtime, and has floundered once they shifted from airing NFL Film recaps to more of a talking head commentary show