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Triple Crown with Jake.

We could look at that RB indecision as a catastrophe, or maybe a learning experience. I mean, we aren’t going anywhere even if somehow TB falls apart and we don’t. Which I don’t expect. Meaning it didn’t really hurt us in a big way. I understand what he was going for, he was providing a chance for a team leader to respond. He just gave it a game too much leash. And then fixed it. What Canales does next time when faced with a promotion/demotion based on production may be more decisive. I would condemn him if he doesn’t learn from it.

89 is in very rare air and I have him in the top 3 best players this franchise has ever seen. Smitty wrestled every ounce of potential out of his body, but I see Tet with having a higher ceiling when it comes to physical traits. I agree, he has a LONG way to go before comparing his impact to Steve’s. Nobody will EVER top 89 when it comes to dawg mentality, however.

I'm not sure we're backed into a corner with Bryce. The trade to pick him up is spent and over. Not worth trying the mental gymnastics to get any of that value back. He plays until we find a better option OR he finally "gets" it. If he wants to sit out instead of playing on the 5th you trade or you cut him. It requires a hard line in the sand. You either believe 100% in Bryce or you wish him well in his next endeavor. This year was Bryce's put up or shut up year. While we're at a 5-4 record which is fantastic for a change, his play hasn't looked like a $50 million a year guy. That's just the reality. He can claim it all he wants, but ultimately the market will bear out his contract demands.

Saints, easily. (there's quite a bit of Hornets baggage tied into this)

The Rangers like to play a fast pace game with their skill set that they have. The current players they have don’t fit the defensive style that they’re trying to do over there. It’s a round peg and a square hole.

Best thing I can say about the Hornets currently is we do have more promising young talent in the event of Ball or Miller missing games. But the culture remains the problem. When the leaders of the team are quick to take games off eventually that is going to translate to the rest of the roster even the younger guys. What's their incentive to keep grinding you know? Anywho. We lost to the winless Pelicans last night. Doesn't get any lower than that.

oompa loompa - Craig Carton

I'm seeing so many teams moving to a run heavy offensive style. It's a cyclical league and I'm here for it. I love smash mouth football. And we did a text book job of it against Green Bay.

I'm probably one of those posters, but I make those posts because there are too many things going on that don't make sense. For instance, how does a RB that does something that hasn't been done in 14 years immediately get reverted back to 2nd string, and it takes a leadership council to make him the starter when he's averaging 3x the YPC? Your average fan shouldn't be screaming that for 2 weeks before the coach sees it. And that's one of many. What you're seeing is frustration that we could be better, that we should be better, if our owner, FO, and coaches could do things that are so painfully obvious to even the most basic fan

Cowboys. Patriots. Couldn't ask for two bigger villains.

I think we're all struggling with what things are right now and what they have been. It's like getting ready to have bandages removed after a long period of injury. The healing, the new growth, they aren't going to be pretty, there's going to be some ongoing issues for a while at best and there's every chance that we're going to have to go back into the bandage situation all over again. And that sucks. But it's also a place where maybe, just maybe, the recovery is going to finally start happening. The bad days will be getting behind us. It's not going to happen this year, but I believe from what I see that this year is showing that improvement. We focus on the QB because that's what all the pundits focus on, because it's the flashiest and most heralded position on the field. No one wants to put out a tweet about how a center is holding down their job and anchoring a line. They rarely celebrate that blocking tight end or special teams gunner. That fourth CB on the depth chart? Not a mention. And yet, those guys are the kind that we've been building here, we're building the lunch pail guys AND finding some future stars. Is Bryce one of them? Might be a cornerstone of the team in the future as the second QB, might somehow just show out to end the season. Might flame out like many expect. But if that uncertainty is all we concentrate on, we're just going to miserably look at this team and maybe miss out on some solid green shoots that are finally beginning to poke through into the sunlight.

Also, your franchise QB; your supposed star, is going to be discussed. That’s a given for any teams fanbase. Cam was discussed, and his flaws were pointed out on a daily. Cam was discussed daily. Same people complaining was somehow able to put up with it then lol

Are you insinuating we haven't gotten blown out while Bryce was starting? https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401547629/panthers-jaguars

I hear ya, but to counter, if one is tired of the same posts or threads, then those posters need to create new posts or threads. They also need to stay out of the threads that they know will trigger them. I remember one of Zods biggest asks back in the day was if you don’t like what’s in here, take action and change it. Y’all got your wish. There’s a Bryce super thread. That means we should start seeing those who complained churning out new threads open for discussion.

Then you should know what the huddle looked like through the Jake years. It was not sunshine and rainbows I assure you. If and when the team can string together consistent competitive football games the rest of the season and not get completely blown out again then you will see less negativity. If the team can somehow compete for the division which we haven't done in many many years then you will absolutely see more positivity. But that's a tall order. Right now we're on a 1 game win streak. That's the best we can say.

We are all tired of making the same post. He has had 2.5 years to stop us and can’t do it. or hasn’t yet.

No one hates Chicago for the trade-raping they did to the Panthers? Or is that part of the Panthers hate? I hate Dallas but because of Dak not Jerry. Jerry is funny and harmless to me and he keeps them down where they belong.

And I am okay with that. I keep my distance while certain posters make the same post 50 times over. I don't believe that makes me fairweather or anything of the like. I also used to post a lot about the changes that need to be made, but it has become excessive, to your point.

1. Saints 2. Falcons 3. Tampa 4. Broncos 5. Pats Division foes first, then super bowl losses

Well, even with our 5-4 record this year, we are in the midst of the worst we’ve ever seen our panthers. It’s been 8 years of flat out bad football. Of course it’s going to be doom and gloom. It took some time for it to get this bad, so it’s going to take consistent winning to get the overall doom and gloom away.

1) Saints 2) Falcons 3) Saints 4) Broncos 5) did I mention the Saints.

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