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Week 1 has always been full of both false positives and false negatives And that was with 4 preseason games. I try and remember to hold off the judgement on the team as a whole until we hit week three. And it is a long season.

Yep, I always said the best way to use him in the NFL is as a full time CB, and then get 8-12 offensive snaps a game. Half those snaps he's out there as a decoy so the defense doesn't know where the ball is going every time he's on the field, the other have are play calls with him as the first read, and likely trying to get it into his hands quickly to let him make plays with his athleticism. That also would mean he needs less practice time on offense too, as he's not trying to get his routes/timing down with the QB as he'd be running a bunch of quick hitter routes or screens to get it in his hands. How NFL GM's didn't see this is beyond me (or maybe some did and it's why the Browns traded the pick and it was just the Jags who were dumb enough to think he'd be able to play both ways full time at an elite level.

Also reading this thread again and seeing that was a clear WoahCam alt, it really makes me wish he was still around to hear his takes on how "his guys" are doing this year. Shedeur can't beat out Gabriel for the #2 job behind old man Flacco, Hunter is struggling on offense and doesn't have a clear role, while T-Mac is proving to be exactly who I said he was and the guy WoahCam was very much down on for a while until he said he was coming around on him, lol

Yeah, it really seems like they made that move legitimately expecting him to be a two way player which is just crazy. You just can't be a two way player in the modern NFL. The obvious approach with Hunter was to have him focus on being a CB first and basically motivate him by telling him that the better you play on defense and the more comfortable you are on the field there, the more comfortable we're going to be putting more on your plate by carving out a bigger piece for you on offense but likely always limiting that to maybe 10-12 snaps a game at most on offense. Starting him out primarily at WR was just insane. At least they quickly saw that and adjusted but they really blew it with the off-season/preseason approach and it's causing Hunter to play catch up.

Yeah, Moehrig in likely passing situations as a LB/DB hybrid role seems like a better approach then Rozeboom/Wallace.

This thread was a fun re-read, and not to toot my own horn, but I'd say I was pretty spot on with the things I was saying about both T-Mac and Hunter, like eerily so. I really wish I had kept a bunch of screenshots/links to all the arguments I got into with people over the last 2 years over T-Mac, would just be fun to look back on them and laugh. To your post though, it's wild that any NFL GM couldn't see this being the case as 90% of fans out there could see it from a mile away, it really was just common sense, you can't be a full time 2 way player in the NFL today, and he's a better CB than WR, always was. The fact that they traded a future 1st and a 2nd in that draft to move up to take a CB and part time WR is beyond comical, and even if he ends up a great player, is more than likely going to be looked back on as a terrible trade by them. Two 1st's and a 2nd to take a CB is just asinine, I'm not sure there has ever been a CB who was worth that, even the peak years of Revis or someone like Asomugha weren't worth that, let alone a full career of play.

This. The Micah Parsons situation is an anomaly and it takes a moron with a gigantic ego like Jerry Jones to pull it off. The vast majority of these superstar/organization showdowns end up with a massive extension getting inked after a bunch of talking and posturing during the negotiation process with everyone trying to get the best deal from their perspective that they can and then everyone making up in the end - basically the Lamar contract situation. That's the normal process of how those situations play out and why everyone just assumed the Parsons situation would follow the same path but then Jerruh gonna Jerruh. LOL

We run a fair amount of big nickel under Evero, so we can very easily play 3 safeties between Moehrig, Ransom, and Richardson. Honestly, I would rather that and have 1 less LB on the field between Roseboom/Wallace. I thought Moehrig played a good game against ATL and don't really understand why his tackling grade is so high and his run defense grade is so low for PFF. I don't recall him having a lot of plays where he took bad angles or something similar on run plays (things that I assume would lower run defense grades).

Don't you dare pour cold water on hot takes! Now we can't see anything for the steam!? Expecting logic from the Huddle! Ha!

If only the Panthers were a top-12 offense during the first three weeks like the Dolphins and Giants. Maybe the team would have as many wins as those other two do. Then there's such a long way to go before catching up with the Cowboys and Bears' win totals. Wait a sec......

I doubt they or he would have accepted it.

I’m pretty sure this was a fluky bright spot but I’d love to be wrong. The run game was incredible. Bryce has gotta be “the guy” or we need to move on.

The article you linked is based entirely on that stretch of games last year where he played like an average starter instead of one of the league's worst QB's. It's a puff piece. And it's already been blown out of the water with Bryce's play through the first two games. Beyond that Bryce is barely at 60% completion with 30+ starts so the "highly accurate" label is fantasy at this point. He throws a ton of 50/50 balls due to his mechanics too.

When does a GWD matter? It feels insane to have to ask that, but a few posters seem to think that GWD's aren't legitimate unless they're in the postseason.

Surprised that the Texans are 0-3.

He has to lead game winning drives when it matters in the nfl, these days, it is all about the QB end of story can you honestly see him ascending to a top 10 qb in the nfl ? scouting reports are about potential and sometimes probability and tendencies sundays in the nfl is about production and wins and nothing else can the qb do it or not i want to see him lead a win against a top 10 team…..when it matters

Well now, Young’s time to shine… agree, easy schedule ?

Bryce Young's current YPA - 5.3 Jimmy Clausen's YPA in 2010 - 5.2 Only rookie project Cam Ward is worse than Bryce so far. It is not unfair or unrealistic to expect our #1 overall pick to do much better than that in his third season. And no that does not mean he has to be Cam Newton.

Didn’t realize Dante Moore is eligible this year. Not sure he declares but he has been looking great.

If you’re a panthers fan, you never truly find out what the identity is.

Uh yeah...your point? We're talking about the expectations of a 1st overall pick because you said no one was asking Bryce to be Cam 2.0, aka a number 1 pick that comes out of the gate with a large amount of success. I disagreed and said people are. I have no idea what Jimmy Clausen has to do with that.

True but Jacksonville is 10th ranked defense and Atlanta is 2nd. Arizona is 23rd which makes sense. New England is 16th so we will see

Sigh. Here we go again. https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/new-stat-panthers-qb-bryce-young-immense-talent-clearer I do agree Bryce has a lot of areas he needs to improve.

Feel like I have heard that before. Then Bryce somehow makes that pass D look good. We’ve seen it before.

I think the defense is playing better this year because Evero finally has enough starter level talent to work with. Last year I remember reading an breakdown of his defense and why we physically didn't have the players or talent to stop the run and that what he was forced to do to compensate left us wide open for other attacks. He was damned it you do and damned if you don't. Also, I hate when people talk about average yards when you have a huge outlier run. Chop off the top and the bottom and that's the real average. You can run for 1 yard 9 times and 80 yards 1 time and get a really good average. I hope it continues.