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in regards to Horn we basically move him to the short side of the field so that he can cut off that side on his own and we can roll more coverage to the wide side

I think it's absolutely physical. He took more risks downfield earlier in his career and it resulted in more INTs. You kinda have to scheme up his deep shots and take advantage of teams expecting the ball to be ran. It's not a coincidence that all three of Bryce's 20+ yards attempts yesterday came on down and distances where historically you'd expect a high likelihood of a run or short pass based on studying Panthers film. His two 20+ yards completions came on 4th and short. The incomplete attempt came on 1st and 10.

Absolutely. He hit big on that trade “So, the Panthers flipped their seventh-round pick in next year's draft into a fifth-rounder and turned a 2027 fifth-round pick into a fourth-rounder.”

It's actually why I thought we should have opened it up against ATL in the first game when we were up big. What was the worst that could happen. It's not like the score was 28-3 and they were mounting a comeback with 8 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Sling it around some.

kinda agree with this. I just don't think it's as much physical as we tend to think. It's his reluctance to push the ball downfield that irks the heck out of me sometimes. Like just give your guys a chance. What's the worst that can happen?

Actually, that was all me my man. I looked at the YPA numbers in ESPN. Bryce is 6.4 this year, 6.3 last year, and under 6.0 in 2023. I just typed in the wrong number and forgot to average the 3 seasons.

So Dan Morgan knows what he is doing?!?! Some huddlers need to lay off of him. I think Dan has done a great job of adding talent and winning trades compared to previous regimes. Dan fixed the Oline year 1, fixed the Dline year 2, added contributors in Mike Jackson for pennies, drafted fairly well. He's not going to hit on every player/pick, but he has contributed to the teams success instead of hurt the team like Fitterer.

Wide open. Excellent play design. ANY starting NFL QB should be able to hit this throw. This this the only big throw I would remotely call a dot. Single coverage and Coker had his man beat. The help from the center of the field is way too late. The other so-called dot. Again, wide-ass open. So of the three so-called "dots" Bryce threw, in reality it was actually one.

That's if he doesn't push to have his extension like other QBs that have remained with their teams have done following year 3. Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, Hurts, Lawrence all got their extensions after year 3. Lamar played out his 5th year. That's why I said the 5th year and extension could be a potential clusterfug. His agent could very well push for the extension. Lamar didn't have an agent to advise him. Playing out the 5th year is not the norm at all.

OTs early but really good IOL is almost always available 4th round and beyond. Heck UDFA is a great time to pick up guys that need a year or 2 before you pencil them in as starters.

It’s nice to play: 1. A good team 2. Without a local fanbase/transplants 3. And win These ingredients don’t present themselves too often in BofA.

I like the Saints beating the Bucs over the Falcons. Falcons are dog doo doo

LLM's always make a ton of mistakes.

The internet really needs a sarcasm font.

We should be trying to solve the center issue once and for all, if possible. Outside of that, we should always be drafting OL to help get the depth upgraded or groom future OL starters, IMO. I get that we have way, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too many holes on the roster to just focus on that one area(a roster strength, at that) but I have a personal philosophy of taking at least one OL in just about every draft, if not more than one.

Probably. There's not really a spot for him on the Panthers, barring an injury.

Coker made Thielen expendable. Now that he's back, there really isn't a place for Thielen anymore. Still a really skilled player, but his athleticism is no longer NFL-WR level.

Trade details re-visited: Panthers-Vikings Adam Thielen trade details Here's the full details of the trade: Panthers received: 2026 5th-round pick, 2027 4th-round pick Vikings received: conditional 2026 7th-round pick, 2027 5th-round pick So, the Panthers flipped their seventh-round pick in next year's draft into a fifth-rounder and turned a 2027 fifth-round pick into a fourth-rounder. All that for a guy who played 185 snaps over 11 games and caught just eight balls for the Vikings. Rare Panthers "W" right there. Carolina could do something absolutely hilarious and claim Thielen off waivers, which would really make this trade look even worse for Minnesota. Granted, the Panthers certainly don't need Thielen and he likely wouldn't have a role much bigger than the one he had with the Vikings, but having the extra depth would not hurt Carolina's playoff push one bit. https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl/carolina-panthers/news/panthers-fleece-vikings-adam-thielen-trade-details-wrs-release/fd67e6af5aba99ea5433f9b0

I think they keep the 5th and we get the conditional 7th back.

The 2026 draft is going to be OL heavy. Team needs everything. Unless guys are willing to take cap friendly deals to stay, they'll be traded a year early or released when the cap hit isn't crippling. That's the NFL.

he going to KC?

There's relentless discussion of Panthers football and the most important position of football on a site dedicated specifically to the discussion of Panthers football... my god, who would've expected such a wild thing???

Article from SI.com: The Carolina Panthers traded veteran Adam Thielen back to the Minnesota Vikings in the offseason. There was some early speculation about how that would go, as Carolina was trusting a very young wide receiver corps and moving on from their most reliable and productive offensive target. Quickly, it looked like, at the very least, the Panthers got something for nothing. Thielen had no impact on the Vikings, and while the passing offense could've used Thielen at times early on, the Panthers have adapted and honestly thrived without him. After Week 13, in which Bryce Young connected with Jalen Coker and Tetairoa McMillan for scores in a big win over the Los Angeles Rams, and the Vikings got nothing on offense again from Thielen (or anyone), they waived him. The statement indicates that Thielen requested this, saying he wants to spend what could be the final weeks of his NFL career contending and playing on a team that can win. It sure sounds like a reunion would make sense for both sides. The Panthers don't need Thielen, but he probably needs them. Other contenders, like the Buffalo Bills or New England Patriots, could use him more, but he runs the risk of failing to grasp everything in time for it to matter. While the Panthers have changed their offense from last year and from training camp to now, it's still much closer to what Thielen knew early on. Re-learning this offense would be much less of a challenge for Thielen in the five remaining weeks. Plus, with a bye week coming up, Thielen would have two weeks to prepare. He did really excellent work with Bryce Young, who he clearly has chemistry with. Why not run it back as the Panthers improbably contend for a division crown? Thielen was mostly a volume contributor in Carolina. There was no one else reliable, so he got most of the targets and most of the catches. But even in a reduced role, it is highly likely he'd do better as WR3/WR4 in Carolina than WR3 in Minnesota. Thielen and the Panthers proved to be a perfect match one time. They could be again, and it would be hilarious to get Thielen and the pick they acquired for him in one season.

It was basically a one-possession game the entire game, we traded leads a few times; this is because the Rams are a good team. Defense got 3 turnovers but allowed a lot of points. Bryce threw for 3TDs with no turnovers and made two huge plays on 4th downs.

What's the issue? We drafted a mascot with a 1st round pick. He sure talks funny!