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I'm not confused. He sucks and needs to go. I don't give a fug what he does against Atlanta. Seen enough

I thought you had it pretty good. The wonky unworkable mechanics and the weak arm put together are a bad recipe. Add the lack of field vision from being that short he was screwed and so was whoever took him.

Guys got the size and the arm strength. Was he buried behind the starting QB's and never really got on the field? Watching the Tube, actually looks decent. I read that he wanted to leave to get opportunity to start. Only 26 and could be someone to check out..... ???????

Oh, I was too. I just still underestimated just how badly physically limited he was going to be.

Here’s what really gets me. Height is what it is and there’s nothing he can do about that, but my guy just looks smooth. Not muscular at all, and it has not changed in 2.5 seasons. He looks exactly the same from his first day of training camp. He could have EASILY put 20 lbs of solid muscle on by now, and it would have really helped his throwing strength, but he hasn’t. He either doesn’t see his lack of strength as an issue or he doesn’t care enough to do something about it. Either way, completely unacceptable. At least show that you’re trying, bro. I can’t come up with 1 thing he has shown marked improvement in since being drafted.

It's good that more people are beginning to acknowledge what's been staring them in the face for quite some time now. If only the Panthers will follow along now.

This years draft is a separate discussion. QB is the most consequential position on the football field. Whether you like it or want to acknowledge it the fact of the matter is Morgan chose to continue with one of the worst QB rooms in the league two years in a row. And he extended Andy Dalton after Dalton had a couple of the most putrid starts we've seen in years against the Bears and the Commanders. It was abundantly clear Andy Dalton was done last year. Still Morgan chose to continue to pay him. Andy Dalton now has over $100 million in career earnings. We're just giving away money here.

Oh I agree David Tepper is ultimately the #1 problem. Unfortunately we can't get rid of him and his wife. Before we hired Morgan the league made it pretty clear to David Tepper that virtually no one who was a legitimate candidate wanted to be here. That's why as critical as I've been of Canales i just have a very hard time believing any quality candidate we could seek out will want to hitch their wagon here. I'll just keep waiting watching and laughing. That's all we've got as Panthers fans these days.

I want three QBs on the roster if we sign a Lance type and draft a guy.At least to start with. Lance seems to be injury prone so definitely if it is him. Maybe a vet that could be traded if the draft pick shows anything or if the pick doesn’t then may f practice squad for him

Regardless of how tall any of them actually are based on past measures, Stroud looks ~2-4 inches taller than Brees (Stroud isn't standing up straight so hard to say exactly) who looks 1-3 ( hair makes it hard to be sure) inches taller than Bryce. If Bryce is 5'10" Brees looks 6'. Maybe just, but still.

Not sure I agree but that’s beside my point, which is this could easily cause resentment towards the ‘tattlers’ from the ‘slackers’ even though they weren’t named. This could be a seed.

Like high school size. I guess he just stopped growing.

Jets vs Pats tonight, probably not much to see on the Jets side. On another note Jameis gets the start for the Giants this week, worth seeing how he looks compared to what Wilson and Dart have done there with the same team.

I agree. So next year, do you want Lance competing with a vet or a draft pick?

At least he stopped drafting WRs that cant catch and RBs that cant run.

I was wrong about his ability to stay healthy. Seems to be his one strength. I mean look how fast he got healthy this year...

Most likely.

Throwing shade at our GM who was not the GM when Andy was brought in and has brought in the most promising rookie class in years is quite a decision

QB Trey Lance is a free agent after the 2025 season because he signed a one-year contract with the Los Angeles Chargers in April 2025. This contract, which is set to expire after the 2025 season, makes him an unrestricted free agent at the end of 2025. Contract Status: Lance signed a one-year deal with the Chargers in April 2025, meaning he will become an unrestricted free agent after the 2025 season concludes. ( "The Panthers Need To Sign Him As Soon As The 2025 Season Ends')

QB Trey Lance is a free agent after the 2025 season because he signed a one-year contract with the Los Angeles Chargers in April 2025. This contract, which is set to expire after the 2025 season, makes him an unrestricted free agent at the end of 2025. Contract Status: Lance signed a one-year deal with the Chargers in April 2025, meaning he will become an unrestricted free agent after the 2025 season concludes. ( "The Panthers Need To Sign Him As Soon As The 2025 Season Ends')

It certainly was. Try to tel that to most people and you got piles of turfs for your trouble. And years now of BS. arguments and stats and excuses. AND you are too negative. damn right I am negative on him it is common sense.

Signed brother

Not throwing at the combine, carrying 20 pounds of water weight, his deep ball looked like ass at his pro day, it was all there...

This^

Not everyone. I was and still am vocal about how little physical talent was on his school film. A couple of other posters were too but it was less than 5 here. He looked like a guy who peaked in school and should never have been a first round pick.