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Finally getting some more details

The official story is that Tepper is no longer so hands-on as he used to be. If this is true, it's a start. It's not a guarantee of improvement though. There are still a lot of things that would have to change.

If you can call being read the riot act constructive......

You could put Madden as coach with prime Tom Brady into this team, we will win 3-5 games. It’s the culture… it’s toxic. After 8 years, some folks still did not figure it out.

It's always in the eyes.

I think that is a nice way of saying I got my ass chewed out for being an incompetent dipsh*t.

Same

Fourth round pick at best.

Color me skeptical on that point...

Assuming he plays like he did on Sunday rather than what he was down the stretch last year, I'd think it would depend on how the conversations behind closed doors go between Canales and Tepper. If Canales feels like he's on the brink of being fired, he probably pulls the plug quicker. If he has some assurances from Tepper that he will give him time, possibly allow him to draft his own QB for year 3, than he probably rides BY out to 100% know if they want to draft a guy or not.

It's not week 1, it's year 8 of Tepper with zero winning seasons to show of it

There are very few quarterbacks I would be comfortable ascribing that ability to. The vast majority require a strong team and organization around them to succeed. Bryce clearly isn't one of those guys, and he's never going to be one of those guys, but you don't absolutely have to have one of those guys if you have the right team building. I don't really think I have to say whether or not we have that here

This is bullshit to cover for Bryce. Miscommunication or not, anyone under 15 feet tall wasn't catching that ball at the back pylon.

Canales was asked by Person if he's had a conversation with Tepper yesterday and Canales said "yes, it was constructive".

Like Samir Suleiman did?

I’ll never forgive them for taking Young over Stroud. A blind man could see Stroud was the right pick during the draft but Tepper gonna Tepper.

It's year 8 of Tepper. Outside of him, coaches, GMs and various others have changed multiple times and some haven't been here long enough to make any truly significant impact (Tilis being a prime example but you could argue for others)

They should not be having these issues in year two of a coaches tenure. The 1st year coaches of the Jags didn't have these issues. Canales and Co. are not going to make it to year 3 at this pace.

He is a cap guy. The threat is he accumulates more power than the cap guy should have with a crew change because I don't want a cap guy running the football team under Tepper. Much like when we kept Morgan when we should have done a complete tear down. Im on the fence personally. He should be keepable but given the history it might be better odds to not. It's like asking can Tepper finally do it the right way? Not a bet I would take sadly even if it should be attainable.

But... but... but... Our receivers suck, it's the defense's fault, the oline should have been better, yadda yadda yadda (I'm sure I'm missing other excuses also) -Signed... most of our fans

Front office chooses the scouting department. For my part, I wasn't a fan of Cole Spencer. We only parted ways with him this year and I'm hoping that proves to be a positive in the future.

describing bryce's 4th and 1 pass as "to the back pylon" is fuging generous

You are right… fixed it to 8… holy poo we are an absolutely shitty franchise.

No argument there, but QBs are able to elevate the players around them. Bryce just sinks in quicksand right along with the rest of the team. If Bryce were a 3rd round draft pick or later, I would be less mad. We drafted him #1 overall though and he just doesn't make the players around him better.

this is tepper's 8th season as owner. other than the first half of 2018 which wasn't even really his team, it's been nothing but misery. at this point any panthers fans out there being like "nah bro chill" is either gaslighting us or a naive moron