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Oh, I get it. I called him Peewee for the first couple of years. He is too small to be an NFL QB. It wasn't as much of a problem in college, even in the SEC, because every player in the NFL is the size and speed of the biggest 22 on your entire college team. I was left scratching my head over the pick and what we traded to get him (and yes, that cost analysis is unavoidable). Now we're sunk into the third season and the kid just popped a frikkin' amazing game out there where he showed every mark of what you need in a top end QB. Great passing, mobility, guts, toughness (that ankle must have been killing him) and the ability to put a team on his back to claw back a win. He didn't win it with his arm so much as by getting the ball to the right people at the right time, but that is what the best do. Do I believe he's going to be our QB of the future here? I'm still out on that. Way out on that. But I'm at least intrigued. Can he replicate what he did or even get close? Can he perform well against the power opponents we have left on the schedule? Heck, can he even beat New Orleans this season? Right now, my personal feeling is that he'd make a heck of a back-up QB. He could prove me wrong and excel, though. Maddening as it is, that'd be the best outcome ever. Or he could have just hit his peak. And that would be bittersweet because then we start the whole thing over again. I don't see a reclaimation project QB out there right now that Canales can work his magic on.

The Niners didn't want him. I think to some extent they were publicly shamed into making an offer when it was revealed he was not in their plans.

I think that is a price and attitude thing. Reportedly he was a bit of a handful for Shanahan, although admittedly not enough to not sign him to that big deal. I also think this may be much ado about nothing. If we plays this season, I suspect they will likely not move on from him.

The injury argument against him was strong but as others have pointed out you chose an injured RB of all things. Wilson was EXTREMELY CLEARLY a better football player than Wallace outside of injury/health concerns. We often seem to whiff on these sort of players(Trey Smith, etc) when we should be making these sort of moves. This is why I railed so much against our FO and their pursuit of RAS/Underwear Olympics champions over great FOOTBALL PLAYERS. Now with all that being said.......Wilson has started 8 total games in his career. He is technically piling up these stats as a backup player. Had we built our roster better, Wallace might have the benefit of being a backup player racking up stats surrounded by better LB's, as well. Instead he is getting abused game in and game out as a starter before he is ready to be such.

I mean you literally are attempting to justify our -60 differential as unimportant in your first post in this thread. Well, having a negative point differential(to the tune of -3.8/ppg) through 11 games is a very strong indicator of being a bad team. If anything, we have largely been overachieving stastically. The on field results also bear that out. So if we end up, and I think this is likely, as a 7-8 win team, with an even more substantially negative point differential at the end of this season how would this statistic not matter? Point differential is the most basic statistic in existence that one can look at to largely guage the results. You do need to score more than your opponent to win.

Yeah, it is wild that we keep clawing back and thriving with all these different lineup combos and players coming and going. Say what you want about how some things have gone over the past few years but our roster construction is exceptional. We really have loaded up on guys in free agency and through the draft that really fit Rod's system. It's gonna come down to the usual things, I think. Can we elevate our play in the playoffs? That's the big thing we have lacked. Eventually we just hit an opponent that can dig deeper and scrap harder than us. It's funny because we always have these teams we cannot seem to get past in the playoffs(Bruins, Tampa, NYR, Florida) that we eventually outlast and outbuild. I guess possiblu that will be the way we win a Cup in the end. Just outlast and outbuild them all.

I wouldn take Nystrom allll day over Reilly. He is a gem. 7th rounder that bought in and is playing great. The injury’s on D actually got him the playing time he needs. He will be a cane for a long time.

LOL, most of us WANTED to draft him, but Dan had a boner for Trevin Wallace, I know I sure as heck wanted Wilson. He's had injuries during college, that's a red flag, they said. Then Jonathan Brooks entered the chat... Make sense of it.

It’s extremely frustrating when it feels like you are genuinely right as a fan. Taking an injured RB in the 2nd was pretty shocking. Every time I shrug my shoulders and say they know more than me but damn. Brooks has to be elite/productive for that decision to make any sense.

True but when they're all healthy together... oh lawd!

Not gonna lie, the first 3 picks in that draft were... confusing. Not necessarily who we picked, but more who we didn't pick and was surprisingly still on the board.

We were all screaming for it too, was so obvious, what was Dan thinking? “Former NC State LB Payton Wilson is on pace to break the Pittsburgh Steelers' single-season tackles record. The second-year player's 8.4 tackles per game would total 142.8, which would top James Farrior's 141 from 2003.”

Ayiuk, Scary Terry, and Deebo? Talking about an injury-plagued receiving corps...

It feels like it's been 5+ years since we have had meaningful games in November...

DVOA is just another way to rank the teams based on a ton different inputs. It's been tweaked throughout the years, but he always goes back and regrades teams so you're always using the same stat to compare teams. And it attempts to standardize everything to league average, so you're getting success play compared to what would happen on average in the league. https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/dvoa-explainer higher DVOA, better/more frequently the team is above average. Panthers are the second lowest team by DVOA to get to 6-5. The only worse team is the 2016 Brock Osweiler Texans. This means two things, generally 1. The Panthers aren't as good as their record: reality is coming and coming fast. This isn't a disney movie; they're not better than the sum of their parts. 2. Regression to the mean in 2026: 2016 texans went 9-7. 2017 went 4-12. It's very difficult to constantly pull poo out of your ass week after week, season after season. Hell, look at the Chiefs last year compared to this year.

He will have plenty of suitors lined up for his services. A WR of his caliber rarely hits FA. Although this is starting to somewhat remind me of the AB situation to a lesser extent. That being said I think there's pretty much no way in hell he isn't in a Commanders uniform next year

after the last few seasons I don't really care. Being a competitive team on most weeks is good enough for me for now

I’d absolutely consider signing him.

The 49ers, sources say, responded by voiding the guaranteed money in Aiyuk’s contract for 2026, asserting that the absences amounted to a failure to fulfill his contractual obligations. Aiyuk, according to multiple league sources, told NFL Players Association representatives that he did not want to fight the move via an official grievance. That would clear the way for his expected release at season’s end. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6826885/2025/11/21/brandon-aiyuk-49ers-news-contract-guaranteed-money-release/ Just the distraction we need hopefully to sneak one out...

The cycle continues...

In general, per the story. Yeah...

Not at all. I said the only thing that matters about how many points scored is who has more at the end of the game. If you're losing games, you're scoring less points. The only time point differential matters is in some playoff scenarios.

running backs are a dime a dozen too, its no real reason to put any eggs in the Brooks basket. you can draft his replacement or bring in a cheap vet and if Brooks plays well thats gravy

if I had my choice you'd play your first game against a division opponent in the first 6ish weeks and the last 6ish would be the second game.