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Detroit kept adding playmakers for Stafford when they had him too. They drafted receivers 4 straight 1st rounds. Got several coaches fired and eventually the much beloved GM/former player that went along with it.

What list? I must have missed it. Who created this list? It certainly isn't any of the national analysts of note.

I mean, I generally agree with your point about improving the QB, but where I seem to differ is the suggestion that adding playmakers, first round or not, doesn't improve the team. At some point, you have to say that if we drop a real QB in there, much like the Rams did Stafford, then we're going places. The supporting cast is just as important as the QB at the end of the day. We aren't entrenched yet, we're still building and developing. We don't have the luxury to skip over a receiver who is the BPA at this point (and I'm not even saying that a receiver will be the BPA).

I'm beginning to think that it's the only position Canales is capable of evaluating and he's 50/50 doing that. It's either that or he needs 3 1st round receivers to have any success in his offense. Don't give me this bpa bs.

I disagree. Bringing a receiver in here that's actually a legitimate, consistent playmaker, a threat to to take it to the house on any given play, including returning if he has that skill set, from one perspective is exactly what we need. Being that first rounders increase the likelihood of actually realizing what it is we're desiring then I don't have any problem with it. Half-stepping won't diversify the room, or turn Coker into more than he really is which is a good-sized possession guy.

I just literally gave you list.

But we don't have a top 15 WR room. You're the only one that I've seen say this this entire offseason. The professional analysts certainly aren't saying it.

I'd take that and run. We could still get an immediate contributor, and position ourselves for one of many blue chips for next year's draft. Being positioned for our next QB (if we move on from Bryce) edge, tackle or WR would just be icing on the cake.

Thats my wet dream scenario. Getting the jets 1rst with them playing a green rookie qb. That has top 5 pick if not top 3 written all over it

Hell ya, give me one of those bad teams’ high 2nd rounder along with their 2027 1st and I’d walk away from 19 with a huge smile on my face.

It would be like watching Atlanta is for us.

If that happens then Chefs kiss to Morgan. I am still holding out hope the Browns, Cards or Jets fall in love with Simpson at 19 and we go that route. McShay thinks the Chiefs hold the cards at 9 in regards to a position run. If they go Tackle it could spark the run on lineman, if they go WR the same could happen as well. The blue chip guys Tier 1 guys seem to end around picks 7/8 so after that its all a huge lump of seemingly similar graded players

So to suggest that our offensive weapons might not be as horrible as being claimed if we were to have Josh Allen throwing to them instead of Bryce is a stretch? Maybe they would be better, maybe not. But I'm not going to keep saying we need more weapons and more this and more that with a QB that struggles to get 200 yards passing in a game. You're right, our receiving corp was ranked in the bottom 3rd of the league. Who was throwing to them? A bottom 3rd QB. If the team wants to get better it has to be serious about the QB position. We aren't and no amount of adding weapons is going to solve the fact Bryce is a bottom tier QB or that the most serious camp competition he has ever faced was Andy Dalton. If Carolina fans were watching any other franchise entrench themselves so vehemently around this level of QB production, we'd be laughing like he'll and waiting for our chance to play them twice a year.

I’ll also say agin, this is why I think we’re in a great spot this year to trade down, and maybe meeting with all these WRs is a smokescreen to try and make a WR needy team over trade to get our pick so we don’t take the guy they want. While at the same time, if Downs falls outside the Top 10, I’d be comfortable with darn near any trade NOT involving our 2027 1st (very well could be needed for a QB), to move up and get him. He’s going to be one of th best Safeties in the game for years to come.

Teams we are better than in regards to the wr room without a doubt and there are other teams you could easily debate Ravens Pats bills miami pats jets ravens browns jags (debatable for sure) titans Chiefs Raiders Giants (debatable) Saints Skins

To be clear, I am not advocating for drafting a WR. As for the OTs we have met with--I am not sure how or when or where and whether or not that even matters. I can say this about OL: Those tackles would not play much (unless there is an injury and Fano is probably going to be a guard. Lomu seems to have slipped a bit (based on the perspectives of crackheads who publish on the interweb or broadcast from their pods.) I like Lomu. I like Proctor--I think he is the #1 OT but the weight (he was 390) scares me. Imagine him with $10m in his bank account at the gas station when the 16-pack of Reeses Peanut Butter Cup is right below his fingertips at the counter. NOOOO! Blake Miller might be the most practical option, to be honest. I watched his vidoes for several minutes (not to exceed 10 because my father played for the Gamecocks when I was born) and I was impressed. At 19? A bit rich, but we don't know what the GMs know. Bryce's contract is another issue. If they decide to give him a bag of money (suicide hotline 1-800-JUMP), they are going to have to part ways with some vet contracts. Moton, Hunt, and Lewis come to mind. Ickey could be gone too. So....I assume we will have a starting center by next year...

My original post : Yeah man we are in better shape than the bulk of the teams in the league. There is no goal post moving. We have a top 15 wr room. We have an absolute stud and a high floor guy. Not sure why you are disparaging our guys, So now for the offense to be unlocked we need a speed guy playmaker, this is insanity

1st round WR again. This will be so great. Imagine if we had a QB worthy of all of this. It might be something.

@MHS831 what are your thoughts on Lemon. I think there is a chance he is there at 19.

Oh, and it likely becomes an issue in 2 years, not 4. in 2 years T-Mac will be eligible for an extension while Coker will also need a new deal himself, not to mention if he rookie WR pans out, he’ll want a new contract the following offseason himself. So you can’t then pay both T-Mac and Coker while not trading that 3rd WR. Just like you can’t pay one of those two and then have the same problem the next offseason with the younger WR and whichever don’t get the contract the year before. If the front office believes in their ability it judge talent, then you draft with an eye to the future and trust that belief. I again point to the Bengals, it’s not even about paying for two high end WRs, other team get away with it just fine. It’s needing to pay for them in the same offseason that creates big problems.

It should be a facto, because while he needs to perform to keep his job, you still have to build with an eye to the future. Where we will be drafting, there is a more than good chance of there being a player there at a position of more need, such as OT, LB, TE, S, or CB. With all those holes, I just don’t like the idea of taking a player who will ensure one of him, T-Mac, or Coker won’t be here 4 years from now, and we all know it won’t be T-Mac who gets jettisoned. So either believe in Coker or don’t, keep him and draft another position or draft a WR and trade him, don’t straddle the middle and hamstring us by leaving more holes while leaving us a huge problem a couple years from now.

Oh, now we are "top half?" Keep moving the goal posts. No we aren't. We don't have a surefire WR2, nor do we have a TE that we can count on to consistently make big plays. Our receiving corps is somewhat bland to be honest. It does not have enough juice. Add another playmaker, then we'll likely be top half. Our receiving corps ranked somewhere between 20 and 25 in the league depending upon who you look at. No one has us in the top half based upon last season.

It is hard to say--if you look back at our roster from 4 years ago...In addition, we have a ton of money going into our OL right now (which might strengthen the argument to draft a tackle now) The average NFL career is under 4 years, but the average NFL career for first rounders is 9.3 years, so most get 2 contracts. So having said that, I look at it as capital--if your concern (legit) becomes an issue, then you should have the same vision and trade that player and draft his replacement. However, TMAC, Coker, and a rookie is not likely to be a problem for another 4 years--2030. But to your point, we have a situation right now that the OL has 2 guards and a RT around or over 30. The make about $70m per year. I like the perspective of reality you bring, however. Is that a factor to morgan in 2026?

I have no problem drafting a WR, even as high as the 2nd, but I do have an issue with using a precious 1st rounder on it. Another WR is a need, but we also have a lot of other needs, and the goal should always be to draft 1st rounders that you expect to be on the team for 10 years if they stay healthy. In regards to Coker, one of two things happen. He keeps getting better and becomes our legit #2 to T-Mac and we have to pay him accordingly, or he doesn’t. If he does, then using that 1st rounder on a WR this year was dumb. If he doesn’t, then drafting a WR in the 1st this year would be smart, but then so would trading Coker when his perceived value would be at its highest. If we were already had a SB contending roster, then yes, a 1st Round WR to put us over the top makes sense, but we just have too many holes to fill to use it that way… again, unless the staff just doesn’t believe in Coker’s ability to become a true #2, which I think he really can be.

I think we all agree that Bryce is not great (at least he hasn't been in three seasons). That being said, he's not going to elevate as much as he's going to collaborate. He's going to do his part, and that's about as much as we can expect. All that being said, even great QBs who can put the team on their shoulders and will it to victory, so to speak, are likely not going to be legitimate championship contenders with a group that's obviously substandard against teams with obviously better players. Of course coaching, grit and sheer luck can play a part, but great play and great conclusions are generally the results of great players, especially when it comes to January and February.