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This local player crap is how we have whiffed on several guys. College sports fans are fickle and they aren't real professional sports fans. When whatever bum 9th stringer they care about gets cut, they will jump to supporting whatever team had their bum 8th stringer still on the roster. This is particularly true of Clemson/South Carolina fans. Attempting to court college fans is a pointless exercise. You will gather far more fair weather and potential long term fans if you just fuging win games.

Hill is also built for contact, he just happens to be short. Sort the Kyler vs Bryce scenario Horn short and small.

I think you are basically describing not being a fan of the team anymore. Do you watch the games on a week to week basis?

I would not. There isn't a team in the division that deserves to sniff the playoffs. Im not a player so it's easy for me. Adding another game I won't watch isn't something I need more of.

Got to have that offensive HC you know they can only win games

Let’s get it to three in a row. LFG Canes!

Svech again

Tyreek Hill is small. It's about the ability to use the skills you have to get open and utilizing that speed. Horn has zero physical limitations in that regard. Is he skilled enough and dedicated enough to do so? To be determined. I will say that they don't seem to view him as a legit WR, which is perplexing. Especially since they view XL as one, despite the mountainous amounts of evidence otherwise.

Same player, different position

See the "participation trophy" thing is not on point. As always, literally, it's all about math. Each team begins the season with the same opportunity and if it comes down to a tiebreaker, that means one team did enough while the other one(s) did not. Win one more game throughout a 17 game season, and you don't have to rely on tiebreakers.

Horn really is probably too small to be your speed. He would have to get more open than NFL open on deep plays if they ever tried it

XL is the player we are talking about. He has the speed to blow the top off a defense and he has to be accounted for. Notice how little effort they have to expend accounting for him versus Tet. Larry Fitzgerald was not fast. DeAndre Hopkins was not fast. Jerry Rice was not fast. Did that matter? Skill beats speed 95% of the time. Do yourself a favor and go combine to combine sorting 40 times and then look at career productivity. What quickly becomes evident is all those 40 time gold and silver medalists rarely make any NFL impact. Again, skill beats speed 95% of the time. Get SKILLED players.

We need juice I get you want someone with skills but if you don't have someone who can separate the skills get diminished a little. There is nobody on this offense that actually scares an opposing team not even Tet. Tet is very skilled but the lack of breakaway speed makes it easier to defend him. Tet and Coker make some great catches at times but how often do you see them make a great catch in space they created. They are usually always blanketed.

Is XL a fit as TE?

They have tried. He stinks at it. He is not elusive or quick at all. He is straight line fast. Not to mention he generally lacks instincts and vision as a runner.

No. Horn is much closer to and still capable of being the best CB in the NFL. Burns has unquestionably proved he is not that caliber of player. He is basically a Tier 2 pass rusher. The group behind the elite guys.

I don't want to back into the playoffs. If they can't take care of business, then stay home.

There is no reason to come and be a sacrifical lamb in a team with an offense not set up for success. So you can get fired to cover for a bad head coach and then have your reputation partially tarnished?

Canales is unquestionably doing a bad job. His in game management is the worst we have ever had during the Tepper era, possibly worst ever. His personnel management is also atrocious. It's been about 60% hindrance and 40% help.

They need to use him more like Deebo Samuel. XL can’t thrive in a traditional role and we’ve all seen this he needs to be more of a gadget guy.

Horn plays aggressively and it leads to game defining moments that propel the panthers to victories and also losses. I’ll take Horn but I’d like to see more game and situational awareness.

nah man I ain't here for a participation trophy. If we were a good team who has underachieved all year I might could accept it but we are a bad team who has honestly just had some serious luck this year. If we can't win it outright I don't want it. Call me a bad fan I don't care.

We have speed in the room. We need skill in the room. All our "fast" guys are super low on skill. Skill beats speed 95% of the time.

I'd rather win. What you should realize is that they were going to subject us to this, win or lose.

There are “win it that way” or “lose it that way” scenarios in many games throughout the season. I’ll take it if we would get into the postseason by this unlikely scenario.