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This thread makes me miss my "old" Mitchell and Ness Pro Bowl jerseys I had of Sam Mills and Kevin Greene from 1996. Someone broke in and stole them aa few years ago. I've not been able to find / replace them.

I am sorry. I must have missed it. I did not recall seeing one (I was very swamped the first week of March) and I did not search to see if it had been shared. I always appreciate your contributions. I would have simply added this spreadsheet to your thread. Either way, thanks to you, we now have a cornucopia of tracked visit intel. We are blessed with knowledge and insight!!

Everyone should ignore that 20m for inj as it's really fully guaranteed for all intents and purposes.

Double post.

But are they cheap and high quality? I'll see myself out.

Fully expect Lloyd's deal to look similar in structure to Phillips deal.

That 20m injury is guaranteed for all intents and purposes as it hits next off-season for 2028 salary. If he's on the roster for 2027, he gets the extra 20m of salary guarantees for the 2028 season. Considering his dead cap for 2027 is 50m, he'll be on the roster to get the full guarantee switch. Otherwise the guaranteed money is in 2026 and 2027 salary plus signing bonus. Can be cut with cap savings after 3 years to what essentially could be a 3 year 81m dollar deal. (He's got a cap hit of 38.75m in 2027 and 2028.)

Tools. If I hear that term used one more time I'm going to lose my damn mind. "Tools" are meaningless if they cannot use them already. Stop looking for "tools" and find productive football players. Stop looking for combine freaks and look for guys that have produced at a high level already. Tools my ass.

my thread wasnt good enough for you? lol

Sorted by Position Player Name Position College Draft Projection Nick Dawkins C Penn St. UDFA Austin Leausa C BYU UDFA Andre Fuller CB Toledo 7th Ayden Garnes CB Arizona UDFA Al'zillion Hamilton CB Fresno St. UDFA Marcus Allen CB North Carolina UDFA Rashad Battle CB Pittsburgh UDFA Elijah Culp CB James Madison UDFA Gavin Gibson CB North Carolina UDFA Daylen Everette CB Georgia 4th Darrell Jackson Jr. DT Florida St. 3rd Caleb Banks DT Florida 1st Brandon Cleveland DT NC State UDFA Landon Robinson DT Navy 7th Kaleb Proctor DT SE Louisiana 6th Gabe Jacas EDGE Illinois 2nd Romello Height EDGE Texas Tech 3rd Derrick Moore EDGE Michigan 2nd Mason Reiger EDGE Wisconsin 6th Kedrick Faulk EDGE Auburn 1st Delby Lemieux IOL Dartmouth UDFA Fintan Brose IOL Delaware UDFA Jacob Rodriguez LB Texas Tech 2nd Kyle Louis LB Pittsburgh 3rd West Weeks LB LSU UDFA Sonny Styles LB Ohio State 1st CJ Allen LB Georgia 1st Kaleb Elarms-Orr LB TCU 5th Reuben Unije OT UCLA UDFA Jude Bowry OT Boston Col. 4th Austin Barber OT Florida 4th Kage Casey OT Boise St. 4th Tristan Leigh OT Clemson UDFA Sawyer Robertson QB Baylor 5th Adam Randall RB Clemson 6th Jalon Kilgore S South Carolina 4th Jalen Huskey S Maryland 6th Genesis Smith S Arizona 3rd Justin Joly TE NC State 4th Ted Hurst WR Georgia St. 3rd Emmanuel Henderson WR Kansas UDFA Camden Brown WR Georgia Southern UDFA

The following is an abbreviated list of the prospects the Panthers have met with. The complete spreadsheet, including the locations and frequency of known meetings can be found in the spreadsheet linked below: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/138yxXgpawL2Fogx5M9OmXTdv2LJvlrya-mgM2YgBOb0/edit?gid=0#gid=0 Reuben Unije OT UCLA UDFA Delby Lemieux IOL Dartmouth UDFA Gabe Jacas EDGE Illinois 2nd Adam Randall RB Clemson 6th Jalon Kilgore S South Carolina 4th Darrell Jackson Jr. DT Florida St. 3rd Jude Bowry OT Boston Col. 4th Jacob Rodriguez LB Texas Tech 2nd Ted Hurst WR Georgia St. 3rd Caleb Banks DT Florida 1st Romello Height EDGE Texas Tech 3rd Austin Barber OT Florida 4th Jalen Huskey S Maryland 6th Kage Casey OT Boise St. 4th Justin Joly TE NC State 4th Derrick Moore EDGE Michigan 2nd Kyle Louis LB Pittsburgh 3rd Mason Reiger EDGE Wisconsin 6th Emmanuel Henderson WR Kansas UDFA Andre Fuller CB Toledo 7th Brandon Cleveland DT NC State UDFA Landon Robinson DT Navy 7th Ayden Garnes CB Arizona UDFA Al'zillion Hamilton CB Fresno St. UDFA Marcus Allen CB North Carolina UDFA Nick Dawkins C Penn St. UDFA West Weeks LB LSU UDFA Austin Leausa C BYU UDFA Tristan Leigh OT Clemson UDFA Rashad Battle CB Pittsburgh UDFA Elijah Culp CB James Madison UDFA Kaleb Proctor DT SE Louisiana 6th Gavin Gibson CB North Carolina UDFA Camden Brown WR Georgia Southern UDFA Fintan Brose IOL Delaware UDFA Sonny Styles LB Ohio State 1st Daylen Everette CB Georgia 4th Genesis Smith S Arizona 3rd CJ Allen LB Georgia 1st Sawyer Robertson QB Baylor 5th Kedrick Faulk EDGE Auburn 1st Kaleb Elarms-Orr LB TCU 5th

not worth wasting my time. the world doesnt deserve my wisdom anyway

Have a 5 year old, and when he's not with his mom, I feel your "pain". But I'm a much better human when he's around. Hope your little girl is doing awesome! Good luck on your play. Random parlay just for fun today for me ....

Brand Tillis......he's either a genius or someone we will loathe in 3 years when all these salaries come to roost and he's a GM somewhere else. I choose to believe he's a genius for now.

If you look at our depth chart, this has to be at the top of the primary needs list. Outside of a true rangy FS that balances Moehrig, I don't see any other "immediate" needs for 2026. Beyond this year, figuring out C, OT, TE1 and WR3 and probably CB2 (are we going to pay Jaycee and Mike Jack?) are on my radar. My list at 19 (in no order) : Freeling Thieneman McNeil-Warren McDonald Miller Sadiq I think CB is also low key going to be a selection earlier than anticipated...Chris Johnson on day 2 fits what we're looking for, IMO and he balled out at the combine. The salaries we just took on and BY9 coming up, I struggle to believe Mike Jack is a Panther next year.

Walker is a 1 year signing. Stone is a 1 year. BC is coming back from an Achilles injury. Typically takes 2 years to get back to full health, but he's also better inside than at tackle. Yosh retired. Moton will have 1 year remaining on his contract and he's already admitted knee issues. That's banking on a whole lot of nothing at the end of this upcoming season. As far as challenging Bryce, a challenge can come from any round. It's about finding the right QB with the physical and mental talent that fits the system. Wilson, Dak, Purdy, Brady. Just a few examples of non 1st round QBs that were able to challenge the starters. Another QB doesn't necessarily have to beat out Bryce, but we should be looking for another starting caliber QB. It's not like Bryce has set the bar so high it's unattainable. The bar is low. The goal is playoffs. Do we throw away a season if Bryce gets hurt, because KP is taking us nowhere. Dan has made some great signings this FA period, I give him that. But replacing Dalton with KP is not aggressively improving our QB room. It's at best a lateral move. This is all about getting better. But this is yet another move that makes it even less conspiracy theory, and more reality, that Bryce is being protected from any real adversity in our QB room.

Oh I think it will be. My point was that we need to be trying to get better in the QB room. KP doesn't do that. He's not going to be a long term plan with a 1 year contract. He's just insurance. This "should" be a make or break year for Bryce. Either He's a guy worthy of an extension or not. Bringing in a rookie number 2 with potential may net us nothing, or it could get us something. The one thing we can be certain of is KP gets us nothing and that's not a good position to be in. I don't want to go into next year with no number 2, Bryce not having developed I to a real QB1, and sitting at 12 or 15 needing to move up to take a QB in the draft just like we did for Bryce. It's not an outcome I see going well for us.

Well it hasn't paid off in 3 years - so let's double down and give him 2 more years of replacement level play, eh?

I've been screaming for DE for months. Forbidden topic indeed.

Great post! Now that I think on it, I think D line might be our biggest need. We are one player away from having a potential disastrous defensive line. Brown and Wharton struggled last year and Wharton has really only been a rotational player that specializes in one thing. Can we count on him being a full time starter? Jackson is unproven. Do you want a starting defensive line of Wharton, Brown and Jackson? I don’t want to risk it. I honestly don’t think linebacker is that big of a need. If Rozeboom ends up coming back then why get a LB? games are won in the trenches and I would honestly prefer us drafting an offensive or defensive linemen over any other position in the first. The prospect you mentioned seems like a good prospect who has had some good production as well. Only problem is defensive line is a position that can take time for a player to develop. Will whoever we draft be ready this season ?

Have they though? I'll give you KC with Kelce, but c'mon, they weren't winning those SB's because they had a great TE, it was a combination of Mahomes and some great defenses. Will also give you the 49ers and Ravens with Kittle and Andrews, but even then, both have missed time with injuries the last few years. After those 3 teams, the best teams of the last 2-3 years have not had elite TEs The Eagles had Goedert, he's good, not great. The Bills have also had good but not great TE's The Rams have had average TEs and still consistently run 2 and 3 TE sets with them and still win. The Bucs have been winning the South without a great TE The Lions' Laporta is more a name than a highly productive TE. The Texans have had a serviceable TE in Shultz, but nothing too amazing. Some of the best TE's in the league the last few years have been on some of the worst teams. McBride, Bowers, Warren, Njoku, even Pitts this past year. A true elite TE is absolutely a weapon in today's game, but I think the best teams use that money elsewhere and find serviceable TE play, usually through a committee where each TE brings something else to the table.

When it comes to evaluating talent, the equation is actually pretty simple. If you're elite in both the measurable traits (size, speed, strength) and the mental side (IQ, instincts), you're looking at a Hall of Fame trajectory—assuming injuries don't derail you. If you're elite in one area but just decent in the other, you can still carve out a Pro Bowl career. Decent in both? That's your typical NFL starter. But here's where it gets tricky—and where a lot of athletes, especially the ones who dominate practices, find their ceiling. If you're not a starter and you don't excel on special teams, you won't last in this league. The roster math is unforgiving. That "what if" game has been playing out in Carolina for a while now, especially at wide receiver. You've got guys who light it up in practice—everything looks smooth, natural, effortless. But when the lights come on and the defense throws a look they haven't seen on tape, the processing slows down. The game speeds up. And when they have to think instead of just react, they crumble. That's the danger. Put a player like that on the field—any position, really—and expect him to process on the fly, and you're setting him up to fail. Now factor in that he was a top-10 pick, not some late-round flier or UDFA. A franchise invested everything in him. They moved pieces around, changed coaching, changed systems—tried everything to help him succeed. But here's the reality check: if he's out there, remember that the guys lining up across from him are also getting paid millions. And their job is to find that weakness and exploit it every single snap.

I think he'd make a good QB spy role in those mobile QB games, like Chicago. Just send him at Caleb every play.

#Panthers Jaelan Phillips: four years, $120 million, $80M gtd, $60M fully gtd, $20M inj gtd. $35M signing bonus APY: $30M Salaries $1.215M, $22.51M, $28.75M, $28.75M

#Panthers Jaelan Phillips: four years, $120 million, $80M gtd, $60M fully gtd, $20M inj gtd. $35M signing bonus APY: $30M Salaries $1.215M, $22.51M, $28.75M, $28.75M