DaveThePanther2008

I am not going to jump on the bandwagon because of this article. However, we should listen to those that have been evaluating players more than those sitting behind a monitor showing us all his outstanding video clips.

I have more faith in what guys like this say than what many talking heads say. When I watched Levis against Tennessee I watched typical QB moves not thinking as a scout. The stress never crossed my mind. I will listen to more about the others as the season ends and evaluation of these QBs really gets deep.

I think it is a good head coach. Using the Panthers as our team. This team is not void of talent. We have a lot of pieces on the team. A good head coach is going to want to build from this group make a name for themselves. McDermott went to a mess in Buffalo and has build a powerhouse. He's made a name for himself as one of the best HC in this league. I good coach will want this challenge.

Drafting a HOF DE over 2 QBs that bombed in the NFL is a loser's mentality. WOW Carr and Harrington were rated higher than any of the QBs in the upcoming draft. Carr was the first pick ever for Houston and they gave him an offensive line, for several years, that was worse than our last season. Over his span of being the QB in Houston he was sacked more than any QB in the league. Harrington was a can't miss out of Oregon. He never panned out. 2002 we needed a QB yet we passed on Harrington and went with JP. JP was a freak of an Athlete and was the best player in the draft. Had we taken Harrington, the 2003 Cardiac Cats never exist. When it comes to evaluating players, you have to cut through the hype and decide on whether that player is going to be the man. In 2002 we drafted the right player. Drafted what turned out to be a HOF DE. After an improved 2002 our 2nd year GM, Marty Hurney, took a chance on a former UDFA Jake Delhomme and the Panthers went to the Super Bowl. Finding a QB is important, but it isn't always in the First Round. I'm not saying that we should or shouldn't draft a QB in round one. What I am saying is that we need to make the smart move and not what everyone thinks we should do. Most of the times, we get it right. It's going to be hilarious when we draft someone else or trade down. I can't wait for the epic meltdown.

What gets me is that this class isn't backing up the hype it had at the end of last season. Stroud and Young were supposed to be "Franchise QBs". From what I've seen, and I'm not a scout, these guys may or may not have lengthy careers. They could become superstars or they could be career back ups but the main point nothing is clear about them, like the Mannings' were. What I have noticed is there are several QBs that may fall to the 2nd round that have the potential to be something special. Someone brought up Penix the other day, the transfer QB from Indiania. I noticed him last year and thought he was going to be an interesting prospect. I haven't seen Richardson play much but many say he's got elite tools. Mainly, we need to get through the hype and thoroughly vet these guys. I could care less if the media thinks we got it wrong. IF and BIG IF, we draft a QB, I want talent, not a NAME.

Definitely not against resigning him but, I wonder if he'll be expendable with Mays as our future center. You try to build from within and use Veterans to fill the gaps. Either way is OK with me.

Facts? The only fact you got half right was he was drafted in the 3rd round. Fact 1. We knew of his injury and still drafted him Fact 2. His injury in preseason game 2 was a freak accident. It's not like it wouldn't have happened to any QB in that situation. A situation the Rhule put him in with a bunch of scrub linemen that are Wal-Mart store greeters now. A situation where he received miniscule Reps in preseason. Fact 3. You have no idea what a new coaching staff will want. But as i stated before. You're talking out of your ass instead of your brain. You can't even accept that he'll compete for the position if we do decide to draft a QB which isn't 100% guaranteed we will. I am done with you and your trolling attitude. You could care less about the Panthers. That's obvious by your profile name. You've probably never even been to a game, any professional sports game, well outside of an Aussie Rules game. You're a Troll that argues everything. Enjoy your pessimistic lifestyle. CIAO

I don't have blinders on for him. I just don't believe he's yesterday's newspaper because he didn't get a good opportunity in camp. You're ready to jettison him based on your overwhelming desire to have a shiny new QB that isn't elite. Just to say you have one. If anyone has blinders on, it's you. You WILL NOT nor CANNOT accept the fact that Corral, given the opportunity, could be our QB. You just want your shiny new toy. And without a LT it doesn't matter who is under center you're going to have a problem under center. His grade fell mostly due to non-football related stories that were so overblown. Fortunately for us, he dropped. Many teams may have wanted him, and we wanted him bad enough to trade a 3rd round pick to get him.

I worked in Supply and Duct Tape was a NEVER OUT item.

Come on, dude. You make a statement. Back it up. Show me ONE team that says Corral is a 3rd QB. You're nothing more than a Troll arguing every topic.

Show me one team in the NFL that says this. You're talking out of the wrong orifice.

Ron is a good coach but he's too damn loyal to veterans and people he's known for several years. I agree, Hurney will keep Ron from succeeding. Say what you will about Ron but he has a great defense. Plus, if I were him, I keep Heinke at QB. Heinke has that fire we used to see in Jake.

The only thing about sitting out a couple of years is you become an afterthought. Then if he gets back into coaching it's probably a Temple type of program. It's better for him to get back into coaching now, to Dave Tepper's delight, while he's a hot commodity. Nebraska used to be a powerhouse. I'm sure they'd love nothing more than for Rhule to turn their program around like he did Temple and Baylor. Plus Snow ain't getting any younger

Two things about Kiffin. One he's been in the NFL before so there is less of a repeat of Rhule with him. Secondly, Kiffin knows Corral inside and out and we'd be able to draft a different position and just bring in a veteran like Minshew until Corral is ready to start.

When he is on, he's one of the best but when he's off he's on the hotseat.

When you think you are smarter than your coaches that's how you get quality players sitting on the bench. Talking about Rhules ineptness how about R. Higgins we signed as a free agent and hasn't contributed much, if any.

Name one that I haven't admitted to. I admitted Fields is better but there isn't anything else. Go ahead I'm waiting? What I find hilarious is that all you you that are defending Lance are the same ones that are calling Corral a bust. Lance had a full season to understudy and looked abysmal in his 1st start. He received plenty of reps and yet Corral who received zero reps with the 1st or 2nd team. He's a bust. Got it.

Doubt it. Lance did not impress me before the draft and he didn't show much after being an understudy for an entire year. He started running as soon as pressure came up on him. He'll get figured out and he'll bust. SF tried so hard to get rid of Jimmy G. They are so lucky because if Lance had stayed healthy they would have been in a worse situation than us.

Temperatures are expected to be in the high 60s/low 70s. - Some light to moderate rain is expected during the game. Not quite a hurricane. He was terrible and he had more runs than completed passes. He's not going to translate to the NFL. You call me a joke yet you write off a QB that got no reps in real practice and call him a bust. So who really is the JOKE. NOT ME.

Tell me what the difference is? Other than we used a 3rd and SF used 3 1st. Both are injured, but because you wasted 3 firsts on a shot in the dark you are going to ride with him a couple of years. SF was lucky they didn't trade Jimmy G away or they would be Fugged. You'd be ok with allowing Lance to fumble around for a couple of years, but you won't give Corral a single season to show his worth. What is sounds like to me is you want a QB in this draft regardless of how good he is just to get past Corral. I think you'll be in for a rude awaking when Corral, at minimum, is competing for the starting QB position next year. I would imagine if they get a new coach, which they won't, but for the sake of argument. They aren't going to draft another QB (especially since they won't have a 1st to pick with) unless it is late day two or day three.

Look at the 2021 NFL draft 1. Lawrence - has not lived up to the Hype. Jacksonville is a mess and no telling his ceiling. 2. Wilson - Looks pretty solid but I wouldn't call him Franchise yet 3. Lance - SF made a huge mistake. Hasn't played much and when he did, he got hurt and was running when he got into trouble. 11. Fields - at the moment probably the best QB in his class. BTW I was an opponent of Fields but he's showing he is going to be around a long time. So, I eat a bit of crow on that one. 15. Jones - Not spectacular but has New England 1 game out of 1st. If you had to judge them to date. Fields, Jones, Wilson, Lawrence, Lance. What I take away from 2021 is Tanking for a QB doesn't necessarily answer your problems. The best QB in this draft IMO is Fields. 2022 20. Pickett he's a rookie and hasn't been too bad but not great either. One of their wins was because of Trubisky not Pickett. IMO Trubisky looks much better than Pickett but as I said Pickett is a rookie. 74 Ridder hasn't seen much playing time. I would expect him to play once Atlanta is eliminated from the playoffs. 86 Willis has started a couple of games and doesn't look too good. Time will tell 94. Corral we all know his situation still an unknown 137 Zappe has been up and down but has played well at times 144 Howell hasn't started yet and Heinke is starting ahead of him. Probably being brought along slowly If you had to judge them to date. Pickett, Zappe, Willis, with Corral, Howell and Ridder as unknowns. I don't see Washington or Atlanta scrambling to get a QB in this upcoming draft Though many want a QB in this draft I won't be surprised to see us going elsewhere with our #1 pick or trading down and gaining assets for next year.

Hurney may have had it right and maybe he pulls the trigger on him but FHULE over road him and went defense. That reiterates the "GET IT RIGHT" mentality. Herbert was considered a Franchise type of QB. I don't see one in this draft class. Last thing we need to do is trade away picks, we don't have, for a MAYBE.

OK genius, answer me this. What do you think about Trey Lance? He's injured after a game and is on the IR list. You're the GM of SF, do you go ahead and draft another QB because he's still an unknown?

And just like in Chess you play to win. You don't lose on purpose so you can play an easier opponent. @Mr. Scot stated. Wherever your pick is. Get it right. Our GM has a scouting team and hopefully they vet all the players based on ability and not hype. I see several QBs in this draft that could be had in the 2nd round and be as good if not better than the hyped-up players ahead of them.

Where am I saying we were tanking? Where did I say I want Darnold to start so we lose? I said, I READ where they may play Darnold. As long as Mayfield doesn't meet the 70% of snaps, we get our 4th and Cleveland gets the 5th. You're nitpicking and trying to make it sound I am back and forth. I'm not. Grow Up.