SmokinwithWilly

Followed him out here at WSU for years. He was loved by fans, players, and alum alike. RIP coach.

With the way he rolled my first thought was "oh poo, what did he tear?"

They wouldnt have had to trade up to get him. The coaches and FO did not want him at all. If they had lost another 2 games that year, the pick still would have been Dwayne Haskins. Synder was taking Haskins no matter who was available.

The only reason we got Burns is Dan Snyder is a meddling idiot. He wanted Dwayne Haskins and he made sure they drafted him at 15. The coaches and FO didn't want him, but they all knew if he was available, he was the pick. The next pick for them was Montez Sweat at 26, so they still got an edge rusher, but it would have been Burns most likely if not for DS. Then our pick would have been THE Greg Little. That meaningless win would have mattered a lot if hadn't been for Dan Snyder.

More annoying to listen to speak. Matt Rhule or Jar Jar Binks?

If the NFCS had a team above .500, he should be in the running. But being a division winner in a division this bad isn't quite the accomplishment it looks like.

The Colts hiring Saturday would be a better example of a team trying to tank.

Great minds

It wouldn't matter if CMC was still here. He's doing what he's doing in SF because he has an offensive HC and an OC who are creative and try to maximize his skill set. The damage was done to this team in the offseason keeping limp d*ck Matt Rhule and hiring an inept offensive coordinator.

Keeping Rhule as HC could be considered tanking.

Rookie WRs are making impacts all over the league. Wilson, Olave, London, St. Brown, Smith and others are showing rookies can get it done. Jefferson and Chase are elite level WRs, but to pretend these other guys have no impact is foolish.

No disagreement they'll likely get killed by a competent team. If the rest of the NFC south had even 1 team worth a damn, there would be no need to have this discussion, but we really do have a good chance at winning 3 or 4 of the next 4. We're not in a position to tank and get a top 2 or 3 pick with the remainder of our schedule the way it is, so fug it. Let's win the whole fuggin thing.

Games still have meaning so no need to tank yet.

Horn gets the game ball for sure.

How important was that non FG now.

Campen has made a huge difference in the coaching of this group. Pay Bozeman, keep drafting oline every year. Keep this unit deep and strong.

Bite your fugging tongue

That was 2 PI back to back.

We're not cursed. This is what happens when you constantly get defensive coaches who don't realize the NFL now caters to high powered offenses. It is hard to hold teams to 17 anymore with all the rule changes favoring offense. We aren't playing 80s football anymore.

Panthers aren't cursed. We just never had a creative OC or HC smart enough to use his skills.

Good thing those 2 things are really easy to get. Playoff caliber QBs are so easy to get that every NFL team has one. We're more than those 2 things away from seriously competing. We also need a WR1, help in our LB core, secondary, OC, DC, TE not to mention the players we will inevitably lose to FA.

The timing is a huge part. We aren't going to be a serious playoff caliber team in 2 years, maybe 3. That will put Burns in year 4 of his contract before we could realistically expect a playoff run, maybe year 5. By that point we're either extending him, trading him, or he could be out of the league due to injury. I think Burns is a very good player, not elite (yet), but those picks plus salary could have the potential to take us further than Burns can alone.

He also played in a less than creative offense for his massive skill set.

I like how they said he was deemed a runner at that point. He has to have to ball to be a runner.