SmokinwithWilly

It depends on the strategy involved. If you are trying to make a SB run in the next 2 years, then you go defense. If you recognize that 2 drafts isnt enough to turn this team around before Ryan is done, then looking at a QB makes sense. Atlanta is not 1 key defensive piece away from fielding a championship caliber team. They need pieces all over so they would need to absolutely nail the next 2 drafts, which is statistically unlikely, to get there. All the while, Ryan is aging. His milage is limited. Go for it all now and hope that a new coach, relying on key rookie pieces, can get you there in the next 2 years and you swing for the fences, or take your future QB now, set yourself up for the next 10-15 years if he's "the guy" and use all your remaining picks to go for the championship. Its 50/50 which way they go but to consider the future of your franchise is never dumb. It's the one thing Hurney could never do and look at how many winning seasons that got him .

It's not a dumb pick if you think your future QB is there. They know that Ryan is there at least one more year. New coach takes his QB, let's him sit behind Ryan for a year which is not a bad thing, jettison that contract in 2022 and start off with "your" guy.

Better question is, IF the first 4 QBs are gone by 8, who are teams going to trade up for? It's easy to say trade up, but is there someone there that is going to demand the capital required to move up into 8.

I told my wife before we got married the only thing changing was her last name. Marriage is a legal construct, commitment is personal.

Missed. Blatantly ignored. Same thing.

All that hairspray must have gone to his head.

I'm not mad at us for winning. I'm mad at Ron for being Ron.

You can spend all the money you want, it doesn't guarantee anything.

Of course I would rather trade back if we can pick up extra picks. The question is how far do we want to move. 15 is about as far as I want to drop down. Now if I could pull of some first-pick trades and end up with 7 2nds and still have a pick in the first, well then, I might be willing to drop into the late 20s.

I'm not even opposed to Pitts. Watching how Kelce absolutely decimated teams even when they plan for him shows how important that position really is. We have really suffered at the TE position since Greg broke his foot the first time.

So speculation is a first and multiple other picks in 2-4. Hard pass. If were going to spend that many picks take the risk and add a 1st and try and trade up for a QB on a rookie contract.

No. People are pissed because just like always, Ron made no adjustments until it was to late to actually win the game. I'm still not 100% sure he was not trying to tank. That team was not very good and they werent going to go far in the playoffs. WFT needs a QB and moving up from 10 or 11 is a whole lot easier than from 19. I still think its possible Rivera was trying to tank by playing his worst player. Pederson tanking worse bit them in the ass.

I dont necessarily think it will go 4 QBs with the first 4 picks. It could easily when teams start trading looking for a QB. I do think those 4 will be gone by 7. So many teams have QB needs and next years class looks weak overall. So if teams want one, and theres a lot of teams that need one, there will be some movement early and often to get one.

I was trying to using one lame duck coach to describe another.

Some things are never gonna change. It is what it is.

A lot is going to depend on Slater's measurables. His tape from previous season looks really good and he can play inside or out. If he impresses at workouts and really shows up, who knows. Sewell may be there at 8 if Cincy likes what he brings better.

He said in his post game presser his future was "uncertain." Who knows what that means right after losing the championship game.

One game out of 55 played in NJ in 2014.

Now that Tampa will have home field advantage for the SB, I think it's worth discussing that every NFL team should be given the opportunity to host not just the domed teams or those in warm climates. If TB wins, home field could definitely play a part.

It's the Brady factor. Same thing happened in NE. Guys would play for less because they knew they had a legitimate shot at a ring.

Wouldn't care if we did either if it meant a Lombardi trophy. All that's remembered about that Panthers magical season is Cam not falling on that fumble and Denver kicking our asses in the SB.

Could very possibly be celebrating 1 or 2 SB wins. I wouldn't care if we only had Brady for a season if it meant a SB coming home to Carolina.

Which will we have more of? Days until trade deadline or Watson threads?

Cam was damaged goods and everyone knew it. Ron and co. ran him into the ground. You cant take that many hits as a QB and expect a long career. It's why so many people, myself included, kept saying if he kept playing like that he would hit the RB wall at 30. To top it off, he made that stupid video bragging about how he lied to team doctors and his coach about the severity of his injury and hurt his entire team in the process. That doesn't go over well when you want other people to hire you. He broke 1 foot then shot himself in the other. No one was going to trade a 3rd or even a 7th for him. Cam could have been so much more but Ron fugging detonated his career.

The Gase factor cannot be underestimated. I'm not sure how long it would take to undo any damage done, but he is an interesting option for the right price. I wouldn't give up 8 for him tho.