Khyber53

Him passing on the guaranteed 3 year contract says a lot about what he wants. He wants to be at the top of the pay scale and be 100% guaranteed. The Ravens are saying they can't do both. And I can see the Ravens' point. I mean, Lamar wouldn't slow play coming back for an injury would he? Particularly if he wanted to negotiate and could be sure of getting the big paychecks along the way? he would never put the team at jeopardy for his own wants would he? Or has he done this already? It's something insiders there might know much better than we could. I think they made a fair offer and he refused it unwisely.

I think I could do that and I'm having knee surgery next week... whew dude. C'mon man. I've seen guys move better than that with a lit cigarette still between their lips. Hope he can get his stuff together.

As things are shaking out, there isn't. It's just that this year isn't a great FA market for receivers. And just because it's the best '88 Buick on the lot doesn't make it the best vehicle on the highway. The tight market is going to make some mid-level guys rich and some bubble guys wealthy, too. I mean, someone is going to pay a Robbie Anderson guy too much money this season. I hope it isn't us, again.

We've got other places to spend money than on WR much less a possession receiver (although he is a really good one). Not a great FA receiver market, there are going to be a lot of teams over paying for moderate players. Looks like the draft for us or a trade afterwards maybe.

I like this pick up. Good solid guy, big improvement, the guy is used to winning. We need that. All of that.

If we're drafting a QB at #1, and of course we are, this was the best possible move. Dalton is a good QB with a lot of miles, a lot of wins, 100 more TDs than INTs and is at that stage of his career where he can really mentor someone without trying to take the limelight away. The fact he spent the last season getting to know the opponents in the NFCSouth and New Orleans' predilections in particular is a big plus. Smart grab.

He's a decent center, he'll find a new home before training camp. Best of luck to him. Luckily for us, things really gelled with Bozeman at center this past season.

A veteran back up QB who has field experience is also worth their weight in gold sitting on the bench beside the young starting QB. Second set of eyes, someone to keep them on an even keel when they game gets tough, someone who can tell the diva receiver to back off or step up. Honestly, this is where you need a Ryan Fitzpatrick or Derek Anderson. Hopefully McCown can handle it, but still...

It's true, but it still hurts to hear it.

Sometimes it's not the guy, but where they ended up. Coaching and team quality have soooo much to do with this. Had Mayfield or Darnold ended up in Buffalo or Baltimore would they have succeeded thanks to the solid coaching there? Maybe, but most certainly they'd have done better. Had Lamar or Josh ended up at Cleveland or the Jets? I don't think either of them would have been looking at a second contract from those teams... train wrecks are train wrecks. So, here we sit, trying to get just the right guy. Too small, too inexperienced, too inconsistent, too much of a program player??? That's not so much the question for us. The question is do we have the QB brain trust in place that we think we do? Can they really develop a QB? A lot points to us having the coaching in place. We also have an offensive line in place and a defense that might help a young QB with plenty of opportunities. Shooo, this is going to be a real experience here. I hope it is exciting and rewarding. It will not be dull.

Whew~! Glad this one is done and squared away. The right center makes the line. The wrong center kills it. We've seen both. We've got the right guy again. And if you want a good QB, you get them a reliable center. Smart move.

We gave up a lot of resources and capital to get that #1 pick which says to me that Reich and Fitterer know exactly who they want to take. The only reason they might trade back is if something comes up between now and then that puts a serious ding in the player's reputation or potential. If we trade back, even to #2, it will tell us a lot about who they wanted and how bad the ding is. Trading back is going to be very hard to recoup what we have already put into the price for #1. We just put most of our chips in the center of the table, it's not likely anyone is going to be willing to either raise or allow us to "unsplash" the pot here.

I've been wondering about this and could not remember seeing Shy play. That happens sometimes with NT kind of guys, not a lot of glory there. Here's hoping we can do it. Still would love to see us pick up Mazi in the mid-draft.

He now has a better chance of starting in this year's Super Bowl than 60% of the QBs in the league. You know what? Good luck Sam! Do it! We're going to be a year or two in the making, so let it be the Panthers North vs the Panthers West for the 2023 championship. Best of luck to him. The kid got out there and took all the hits for us and got back up and did it again for a coach that shouldn't have ever been given control. Here's hoping he thrives out there with good coaching.

I'd imagine both styles have their uses for the front offices, if they're smart about it.

Both were pretty good kickers and would have been fine to stay imo. Good luck to Eddie! Maybe he ends up in San Francisco.

This was a pretty solid get, too, and he had to be sitting on a lot of this information for a while (at least a while in this rush to twitter age). Solid work. Thanks for sharing. That's a lot of good insight into the goings on and makes me feel a lot better about the whole deal. It seems that even though this moved fast, it wasn't rushed in any way.

Chicago, where many great Panthers go to cash the big pay checks. Here's hoping he follows Moose and Pep and comes back for a victory lap with us someday. What a great young man, what a heck of a teammate, what a gift Chicago is getting.

That's a good read and a good look at the complexity of the pick that looms before us. I didn't think we'd make the trade and I was blown away by it. Now, I'm just as perplexed by the options as anyone. Considering the staff we have assembled, the fact their choice is the first choice, there should be every chance that who they pick will flourish here. We, the fans, are in on this leap of faith. Sure is a loooong way down, though.

I wish this wasn't true, but it is. Durability is an amazingly important trait for a professional athlete. Perhaps the most important one.

Rotational? Honestly, he's been not a disappointment but more of a "meh" player. Maybe he comes alive in the new scheme, maybe he doesn't. I think we kept a lot of bubble players because Rhule thought they either fit his culture or were just about ready to drink his Kool-Ade. Still, in YGM's case, he hasn't been that expensive and he has been uninjured and available... if you're that kind of guy and get lucky, you can have a decent NFL career. There are 10 year vets that rarely touch a starting lineup but they hang on because they are okay, healthy, quiet and inexpensive.

Brown, draft Mazi Smith in 2nd as NT, retain Matt Ioannidis Burns, Shaq, Luvu, Barno

I'm betting Shaq has a career best season. Pro bowl. Just watch.

Well, I was completely caught off guard with the news. So there it is. Let's go and let's get it right. A few years ago we put all our eggs in a moron's basket. Let's hope that we've been smarter this time and that the Reich Regime knows what it is doing.