Khyber53

Oh no, we've been polarized for a decade or so. We should probably be on medication for it.

Thanks OP for the hard work in going through all those plays. Sure hope someone on the coaching staff did at least that much work on dissecting the O-line. I really didn't want to see us loading up two rookies on the right hand side of our line, but I think Christensen and Brown are going to have to make a go of it. Hopefully they can learn as they go. It may have to be run right and roll out for passes to the left for a bit. Daley, there's a sunk cost thing here and it's time we realize that he's just not going to be a starter there. Bench and ST for him. Elflein comes back, put him at LG, or slide Erving in there. Paradis. Dang, I'm sorry but I don't see him either holding his own or helping out with protection calls at all. Might be time to shuffle him out and see if Tecklenburg can handle it. At this point, I'm about ready to say reserve our first three picks in the draft for O-linemen, with a center being top priority.

Let's just nickname them The Matadors.

I'd also have to pick more winners each week. That's where the crinkle in my game plan is.

I'm picking, but I don't seem to be really improving my score. And this is why Vegas and I won't ever be a thing.

There's always the chance that if Robby could just get open on the routes they've assigned him, he'd be given more and different routes to experiment with. The dude has been half-assing it since the middle of last season to the point where he not only rarely gets open, he doesn't even serve as a decoy. 2/30 on seven targets man. Eleven targets for 5/46 the week before. Two targets for one reception and eight yards against Houston. Three receptions on six targets for 38 yards against NO. One reception on three targets in his revenge game vs the Jets for his lone touchdown and 57 yards. Dude, catch more than half your targeted passes before ranting. Get open more to get more targets. The world ain't just go routes.

Most teams, good and bad, lose two in a row at least once a season. We're 3-2, along with two other teams and only five teams in the league have a better record than us right now. And there are 12 games to go. It's a long journey to the end of the season, and we haven't gone very far, let's not turn around and go back home yet. Enjoy the ride. We're a better team than we were and there's a lot yet to happen.

Yanno, when I thought it was just the one comment in one e-mail, I thought the guy deserved some chance at redemption. Now more of it is coming out, troves of stuff, and I think that I was judging the iceberg by just the tip of it. There's a lot of problems there, this wasn't a one off "wish I had just reread it before I sent it" situation. So, yeah, he deserved to be canned. He fell on his sword instead. In the end, I hope he does fix these problems in himself or at the very least someone else can learn from his massive, repeated mistakes.

Send them Sideshow Rob and a 5th.

Three things will determine this game: 1) Offensive line play for the Panthers. Can we provide even a modicum of protection, give Darnold just 1.5 seconds more to react? 2) Can our D-line get to Cousins early and often? 3) And probably most importantly, will CMC be available? If so, there are benefits he gives to #1 and #2 on the list. (He changes defensive attack schemes massively, and he can extend drives giving our D time to catch their breath). When we win, we dominate time of possession and the three things above are big, big parts of that.

I agree wholeheartedly.

This 100%. This isn't LSU picking on the Louisiana Tech Muddawgs. Joe Brady needs to remember to look at the part of the playbook that actually has directions for the linemen besides "Y'all stand there and block people." And, he needs to oversee development of linemen. It's not just that these guys have been bad, but that they often look like they have no idea how to handle even the simplest stunts or movements by the d-line. And let's look at the running game. That's some pretty straight-up college BS stuff there with run it up the middle, variants as to left or right of the center. Pitchouts, maybe an RPO once in a frikkin blue moon (Darnold was becoming a threat to run), how about a full back dash if you are trying to go up the middle? Chuba succeeded yesterday because of will over planning. How about a rolling pocket? How about more bootlegs (Darnold was safest during a naked bootleg yesterday of all things)? Quicker developing routes? Benching Anderson for someone who will try to get open? How about just sending Anderson on go route after go route until he tires out some DBs? Anything. Please.

I'm just going to venture that maybe we win more games and have a team to rally behind rather than just become a bunch of battery-throwing, parking lot brawling assholes. But hey, if that's what you want, you be you.

Let's see how the season plays out. 12 more games ahead of us, we may need him more than we need the trade. He may also fade down the stretch or prove to be just one of a number of good options. We're building a team here, not having a fire sale.

Umm, Mahomes' intangibles aren't very common, perhaps like four QBs in the league ever have had them like he does. So, let's leave him out of the conversation, as well as Rodgers, Brady and Wilson. Those are rare, best of their generation QBs and as such are unrealistic measuring sticks. We're trying to determine if Darnold is good or not. No one is trying to make him legendary, so quit putting that up as your testing model. Could say, Tannehill, Carr, Allen, Prescott, or Stafford have survived and thrived behind the line play we saw yesterday? I think, with the exception of Prescott, we've seen each of them behind bad offensive lines and all of them floundered. Tannehill was written off, as was Carr to the point where there was a time we all thought they would never be starting QBs again. Stafford, who is a world beater now, was literally doomed to purgatory in Detroit behind terrible lines for his whole career. Allen had difficulties his first year, but growth in his mobility and line improvements have pushed him to the top. Prescott hasn't had to play behind any kind of suspect line since probably high school. Darnold's stuck right now, but it doesn't mean he's a failure, as one really bad game doesn't destroy his potential, just like three good games don't erase his past. We've got 12 more games to see how he does -- growth or wilt.

The game is done. It cannot be undone. Time to move on. Darnold has been good to very good in four out of five of our games so far. CMC will be back next week and that changes the equation in massive ways. Darnold will perform well again and the o-line will see improvements (I hope).

Glad you're here. We all need someone to talk us in off the ledge. 12 games left to play, it's going to be a loooooong season if we give up now.

Chuba did really well, and the run blocking wasn't very good. He was a wise pick-up for the team. Still, I'm hoping he'll be RB2 next week. Even with a really good RB, I don't like our chances, we've got to have CMC for this offense to move. Crazy to think it, but CMC alone will help the O-line in their work.

You should also be able to see on your phone the beating Darnold took in the pocket as the line collapsed time and time again.

Nah.

Always fun to draw up pass plays. Hella hard to coach up an offensive line. Joe Brady...

Okay first rule, even if you are from Temple, you don't get an extension until you frikkin' do something good, regularly. Robby disappeared last season after week 5. He hasn't come back. He's spent more time buying sneakers than studying film since he got the big deal.

I can get behind this. Shop Robby for a lineman. Or a groundskeeper. Someone who can identify bears and cats at least.

This is, without a doubt, the most correct thing said on this board all day.

Kinda like saying that after those three semi-trucks smashed into his car, it was all his fault for not being able to hold it onto the road. No QB could have made it through that beating.