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100% I'll give you a reason. 8 is around the time where they've burned enough time into the program that they need their first break. Were surround by teams with major fanbases like the Broncos and Cowboys, no WAY they break for commercial after us. Before us, Detroit has a pretty good shot but they'll play the angle of new regimen to build the suspense

except when we took Brian Burns, we all knew that was going to be a home fuging run. or at least the smart ones did

There is a lot of smoke around the Panthers and Horn right now That makes me believe we are actually trying to get someone to trade up with us for someone who really wants him i.e. Dallas

can't wait for the announcement we've drafted Fields

Here's the way I look at the Darnold situation. A.) if you get your franchise QB for a second round pick, you do that 100/100 times no brainer. b.) the dolphins recently traded away a second rounder for Rosen, who is a complete bust, look how much draft capital they have. Fitts knows the value of trading back and down. I fully suspect we trade down at some point this year to recuperate assessts c.) while we won't get much for teddy I still think he has trade value. d.) if fields falls you still draft him at 8. You can NEVER have too many options at QB. New England had Tom in his prime and still took Jimmy G

This is why I keep coming back to Slater is probably the pick at 8

call me old and grump but I hate this

Hell no I'd love both

I'm becoming more and more convinced he's going 3 overall based on absolutely nothing

If all four top QBs are gone and someone like Chi, NE, or WFT wants Mac Jones I'd hold them up at minimum for a future first and this years second, CHI and WFT would have to give up more

I agree with the Surtain logic. If we trade down to like 15ish and he's still there it's a no brainer. But he isn't a top ten pick. He's a mid first rounder in my book I do not want Mac Jones. Here's another hot take. I kinda think Zach Wilson is going to be a bust. One of these guys out of the top four is going to be and Wilson has the biggest bust potential in my book

usually I agree with you Bronn but I see this draft going totally differently. 1- Lawrence. written in stone 2-Wilson. written in pen. 3-Fields. No one. I mean no one has a clue what the 9ers are doing. The media is all over the Jones thing, but NFL insiders think they moved up for Lance. I'm going on a limb here and say they're sending smoke signals and actually want Fields. 4-Lance. They love Lance and are ectastic SF passes on him. Perfect player to develop because they are TIED to Matty Ice for at least two more years. 5-Penei Sewell. They are tempted to take Chase but ultimately management wins. Best pick here. 6-Pitts. Dolphins wanted to move back up into the top 6 for someone. I'm betting it was either Pitts or Chase and they got wind one of the two would be avaiable. 7-Chase. Dream scenario for Detroit, #1 WR falls into their lap 8-Slater. Panthers like Slater, they want Slater. They're basically having Bill Voth put out the narrative that we need o line help (which isn't untrue). We trade down in the second to recoup draft capital and take Richie Grant though.

Pitts is not above Lawrence

someone bump the old igo thread, pretty sure that was after week 4 lol

Totally agree with OP though, after ~ pick 8 there is a large talent drop off from elite prospects to very good prospects

Love this topic OP 1- Lawrence. Best QB prospect since Luck 2- Fields. Would be #1 overall prospect any year but this one. Can make any throw on Field. Has elite athleticism he actually underutilizes. His accuracy is top notch and the whole first read thing reeks of racism and is untrue. 3-Wilson. Live arm, will need some work but has a very high ceiling. 4-Trey Lance. Tons of potential. Ran a pro-style offense and had a lot of control over it. Elite athleticism. Probably the highest boom/bust prospect but might have the most potential. 5-Penei Sewell. Elite athleticism for a man his size. Started LT as a freshman. 6-Rashawn Slater. Not as far behind Sewell as you might guess. Stonewalled Chase Young in the game against him. Strong as hell. 7-Kyle Pitts. Unicorn type prospect. Positional value drops him to 7 on my big board. 8-Jamar Chase. Not a need but is a true WR #1. Just for fun 9-Jaylen Waddle, 10-Patrick Surtain, 11-Christian Darrisaw, 12- Jaycee Horn, 13- Greg Newsome, 14- Devonta Smith, 15- Aljah Vera-Tucker, 16- Tevon Moehring

I wouldn't be mad but he's below Slater in my book

FWIW Ben Allbright who is well connected in the league believes Sewell isn't the highest tackle on our board. That means we either have Slater one or we like Slater, Darrisaw and Sewell all pretty equally. I still think Slater ends up being our pick but don't be surprised with a trade down to 12-14 range and we draft Darrisaw or Horn I'm going out on a limb right now and stating that passing on Fields would be a HUGE mistake. So what if we've given up a 2nd and 4th four Darnold. You get TWO cracks at a franchise QB if you draft Fields at 8.

If i had to bet (which I love gambling)...I'd say Slater is the most likely pick. Sewell and Pitts will likely both be gone.

My Realistic Options 1 Justin Fields 2 Trey Lance 3 Sewell 4 Slater 5 Pitts 6 Trade Down ~ pick 12-14 range and target Darisaw or Horn 7 Surtain

I think we'd go Pitts but I would go Sewell FWIW I think there is like a 0.1% chance Pitts is there at 8

I think the problem with trading with Miami was (at the time) the Panthers were trying to conserve as many assets as possible for a Deshaun trade.

Honestly we couldn't have convinced the Jets to just take Teddy with all those picks

this is probably not true. this smells exactly like Cam last year. Cat is out of the bag we don't want him. we will end up cutting him