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Cockblocked again. Always the same with these Panthers.

50/50. It's the NFL - you have to have clear certain physical requirements to even sniff the league. The coaching ranks are full of really smart ex-QBs who couldn't physically hack it in the NFL.

And Young's stats dropped off considerably when his WRs left - if we're playing that game (Stroud's didn't).

Does Curry regularly take hits from 300lb men in pads?

Don't make me pull out the recruiting rankings again, cos I will. He was at Alabama, not UAB.

It was 3 years ago, but the whole point is you're meant to IMPROVE in College - and again in the NFL.

LOL I respect his analysis, but damn judging the players based on who they were as High School Seniors...

I think Richardson is further along mentally than you give him credit for, but the rest is fair.

I mean he's thrown for 85 TDs, 6 INTs and 8,123 yards in his two years as a starter (with a marginal drop off as a Junior when he lost two first round WRs to the NFL). It's not like the Georgia game was the only one that he showed out in.

For me, echoing what's been said elsewhere, you have to take Stroud of the two. If you take Young and he breaks / you have to throw out half the playbook then you deserve to be fired. If Stroud doesn't work... you still deserve to be fired for the trade, but at least you might get another job. I'd also argue that if you look into the prospects - in terms of projection, Stroud has followed a more traditional path of improving every year and earning his playing time. Young is basically a QB prodigy (started as a FR in High School and transferred to a powerhouse High School) who never I fear is just never going to be big enough to play in the NFL. I'd personally gamble it all on Richardson, but that's me.

We gave up two first round picks, two second round picks and our WR1. Y'all wouldn't shut the fug up about trading a second round pick for Darnold. C'mon now.

"Man if y'all fug up this #1 Draft pick I'm going to buy your house, burn it down and piss on the ashes".

You lost me at #1 overall.

Again these are fluff pieces until you see which QB they pick and whether he's any good. A random Huddler could have traded away the team's future for the #1 pick - that doesn't make it a good thing. All three could very easily find themselves in the unemployment line in 2 years time.

I still think you have to be "this" tall to ride the rollercoaster, but I digress.

They're happening as we speak around the league.

I mean at the end of the day all of this debate means there's a good chance all these fluff pieces about how the trade went down are going to be Exhibit A in the court of public opinion when Young / Stroud busts. There isn't a consensus QB1 in this Draft and we were mental to give up so much for the pick.

Kenny Pickett has 7 (passing) TDs, 9 INTs and 4 fumbles my dude.

I think Young is the better College QB. I think Stroud will be the better NFL QB. A portion of that is down to his size, but not all of it. I don't think he can see the middle of the field (see below), I don't think he has a good NFL arm and I just think he'll get crumpled by NFL athletes. His off-script style of play (which he resorts to cos he misses reads imo) doesn't work without having an elite intangible - for Murray and Wilson (two QBs of similar height) it's due to their mobility, which I don't think Young has. For Mahomes it's due to his ridiculous arm which Young definitely doesn't have. I'm actually not fully convinced by Stroud either - his arm strength is 'good enough', but he's going to have to throw with a ton of anticipation for it to work in the NFL.

But Young isn't 6'3". It's like saying if Darnold had Peyton Manning's brain he'd be the MVP. He doesn't, so he's on his third NFL team in four years.

When did Steve Smith say he thinks Richardson is the guy?

The NFL Draft is about projection.

As discussed it's all fun and games, but if they pick a bust then everyone in the room when the trade went down needs to be fired. They gave away SO much.

We wouldn't be taking a QB if we followed that reasoning.

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