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Frank Reich's daughter got a job with the Panthers weeks prior to that. I think exploratory talks were going well enough at that point to assume that Eason, who is very on paper similar to guys Reich has liked, might have been something casually mentioned. I'm not saying he beat the table down for him, but Eason isn't camp fodder. He's won some jobs and was right in the mix in Seattle until the very end of camp. Guys come into those meetings with plans and position recommendations. Eason being a Reich pick isn't irrelevant in that scenario in my opinion. Doing little things to improve your chances when you're trying to lure a coach in are appreciated. Corral and Eason will battle in camp. They're less than a year apart in age and both younger than the Georgia starter.
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it's a tough situation for Corral. usually, leftover projects from the previous regime at QB are escorted pretty quickly away. Reich brought Jacob Eason in as his project arm and that might represent the threshold Corral has to surpass to make this team. If you look at the QB that Reich has worked with, they're all arm first guys. Manning in Indy during his first stint. Rivers in San Diego. Wentz in Philly. Rivers again in Indy. Ryan in Indy. This is why he favors Eason, because Eason has the arm talent to match just about anyone in this draft with Will Levis as the only true competition. I know that sounds absurd, but arm talent is not the only measure of a QB, which is why Eason has been in 3 organizations. It does make me believe that Levis is the preference if we're trying to draft a QB this year. Richardson is far too raw for what Reich wants. I think Corral is a bit more of a two way kind of QB where you give up some on the arm for some on the legs and that hasn't traditionally been what Reich has wanted. I think that extends to the draft eligible QB as well with Young and Richardson being less attractive for us.
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Probably the one guy who had value to us moving forward as a wing in a good rotation and he gets shipped out. Rozier should have been gone if there was any legit interest at all no matter what the price. Plumlee the same. I would have listened on PJ as well. We needed to clear the deck of all this veteran weight to get our future back on track and we did nothing except keep enough of it to win enough games to finish 4th worst in a 2 star 1 all star draft. Forever missing the impact draft picks.
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PFF Top 100 Free Agents and their projected contract
SameDamnThing replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't think the need at CB is as desperate as some make it out to be. We are going to be getting a LOT of help from Horn being able to take basically half the field away. To me, the big hole in the secondary is Chinn against wideouts. He needs to come back to linebacker where he was an absolute difference maker and not chasing smaller, faster guys down the field. If it shortens his career, it shortens his career. DBs don't exactly live forever either. Keith Taylor, IMO, was better than the noise. C.J. Henderson needs to live full time as the 3rd corner. Taylor can come in on TE assignments and bigger WR. The CBs didn't get a ton of help over the top and we need that centerfielder that can pick up the target quicker and arrive in time to make a play. We don't need 5 picks from that guy. We just need him to keep the lid on. -
PFF Top 100 Free Agents and their projected contract
SameDamnThing replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Dalton Schultz would be a nice grab. We want to run the ball, but we need that guy to be reliable in the middle of the field as well and Ian Thomas just ain't it. Rookie QB in particular use TE like security blankets because of their strength, catch radius, and lower risk of interceptions being covered by LB. We need to invest in that position and ideally a veteran. Jadaveon Clowney might also bring some heat with Burns on the other side and push up the middle from Brown. Tony Pollard would be an interesting add as a pass catching option in the backfield and changeup to Foreman. Mike Gesicki would be a good fall back option at TE. Foster Moreau could be a sleeper there too. -
What would you give the bears for #1 pick
SameDamnThing replied to Jmac's topic in Carolina Panthers
This is how it always goes. Teams are trying to give the Bears the impression they’d be holding the bag waiting for a trade for Young and keeping as much of a poker face as possible. When the balls start flying in private workouts and at the combine, all that goes out the window. We don’t even have a consensus 1-2-3 yet between Stroud, Young, and Levis. Houston has the easiest shot to move up for a few picks. Carolina will have to offer substantially more future value to get the Bears to bite on 1st to 9th. Again, a lot depends on how these kids work out. If we believe our guy is the 3rd ranked guy, we can stand pat and see what unfolds in the run up. It’s not impossible to get our guy outside the Top 5, especially if Levis is our favorite. We could move to the 6th or 7th and offer some certainty to those teams their defensive guy will still be there at 9th. But I would imagine that the QBs worth taking early are going to bunch up in the Top 5 and we will have to pay someone’s price. I think we can get that done with only 2023 picks with as many shots as we have Top 100. If we need to get back in the mix for a TE on Day 2 we can do it with 2024 picks and be alright. However, if we get a faller for some reason we are right in range for him. I don’t know if Bryce will test well enough to answer questions about his height and those are significant. People act like it’s a no story deal but it matters. Stroud will have to test well in athleticism and consistency. Levis doesn’t have the resume but has the arm and the stature. His mobility will also matter. As will his ball placement and decision making. He’s going to have to win in the film room with a lot of teams. My early order is Young then Stroud and then a slight gap to Levis and that can entirely flip based on testing. I think we will be appropriately aggressive considering our ambition to win now with a defense that is a few guys short of elite. -
Joe Person on possible coordinator candidates
SameDamnThing replied to ncfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
this is the reason you go with reich ahead of wilks -
Do you trust Reich to find us (and develop) a franchise QB?
SameDamnThing replied to t96's topic in Carolina Panthers
one would hope that Reich would be able to recognize the folly in bringing in quarterbacks to patch holes and will want to draft and develop one of his own. the situation in Indy was not his fault. Luck bailing on football left that squad a QB away from doing some great things and they tried their best to make it happen with 2 QB who were just too used up to make it happen. -
Wilks needs to slow down with the racism stuff through his representation. they named an interim they thought would have zero chance of being in the conversation once the actual coaching search started, but he took a team with .500 talent to a .500 record and apparently that should have made him the slam dunk choice regardless of what our intent was when we released Rhule. It was great that the team showed a pulse after Rhule was fired, but is that more an indictment of how much they had tuned out Rhule or an endorsement of Wilks? We remember Week 17 and how anemic the offense was. That was 11 weeks into his interim tag. I can't stress enough that the interim tag was a nod of respect to Wilks, but in no way intended to give him the impression he was the leading candidate on a staff they wanted to entirely eliminate prior to the next season. They awarded him a platform to help find him his next job and that's exactly what happened. No racism. They just already decided what direction they were going with an offensive head coach and Wilks didn't fit the bill and his previous head coaching experience went awful.
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Payton wants more control than we’re comfortable with and the sentiment appears to be the same around the league. No GM wants to lame duck themselves. I still think Wilks inclusion this late is optics driven by how he’s been cast as the player choice. Reich seems very likely the favorite.
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it's almost a foregone conclusion, if not decided already he will be. I think the talking heads would explode on the NFL's treatment of minority candidates if Carollna with one of the most liberal owners in professional sports didn't hire him after how the players responded to him and him raising the team from the dead. I would say 80% chance he's our guy on Week 1. There's a lot of hopeful people out there that would say to the contrary, but there was already huge stink last year when Byron Leftwitch didn't get a gig and several other candidates that were expected didn't even get calls. Tepper will do Goodell a solid and make this hire. It's written on the tea leaves.
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No, he's not. When your rushing attack is having success it doesn't so much matter who is back there. when 2 guys rush for 100 yards in the first half, you better be winning that game. Darnold isn't having to make game defining throws. I don't see how anyone that complained about Bridgewater could view this situation any brighter. Darnold has just embraced the first rule of quarterbacking, which is don't fug up. There's a lot more to it.
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I wouldn't be so sure. there are teams above us that have quarterbacks and we have some ammunition to make a jump if we need it. my hope is that Denver will be motivated to push that Seahawks pick down the board and will stay competitive through the remainder of the year instead of packing up. If we can get Chicago at #2 overall, we could make a compelling case to jump Seattle, Indy, and Detroit for Stroud if we liked him enough. Chicago needs a lot. Arguably more than we do and we have an offensive line ready for a plug and play starter. They might be best taking the draft capital and going playmaker with our 1st and still getting their choice of the WR/TE crop. Detroit would have better picks to offer, but it would make sense for them to pick twice and who knows what they think of Jared Goff right now with how Dan Campbell has these guys playing. They might give him one more season. It's going to depend a lot on not just our pick, but the least QB needy team that ends up in the Top 3.
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Brugler: Next year's quarterbacks "not universally loved"
SameDamnThing replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
what would you guys say if Sean Payton and Lamar Jackson wanted to come here as a package deal, but we had to pay Lamar league record money to make it happen? -
more than I bank on Burns developing into a 20 sack per season player like he will be paid to be? yes. we just paid 2 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick for the right to overpay him. we may as well have made the trade in reverse at the deadline. we gave him the leverage to write his own check and it will be MASSIVE. for what?
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Rams Offering Two (Future) Firsts for Burns
SameDamnThing replied to OnlyPantherFaninMaine's topic in Carolina Panthers
Cash out on those picks. It sucks they will be so far in the future, but the Rams are due for a MAJOR fall off. it has already started but they're trying to trade their future to get back to the SB. those picks could be from a non-playoff team if Stafford is starting to lose it and Kupp starts aging. Burns isn't going to turn the tide by himself and he's a pass rusher only. -
DJ Moore should not have been penalized for helmet removal
SameDamnThing replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
this legit cracked me up, guys. I needed this. got people out here reading the rulebook with a magnifying glass. bless you beautiful people. -
DJ Moore should not have been penalized for helmet removal
SameDamnThing replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
people reviewing this footage like he's dragging his toe for a catch coming off the field. like, what? the spirit of the rule doesn't technically mean on the LITERAL field, he popped his helmet off within like 3 seconds of catching that ball. it may be a dumb rule, I don't know, but it's a rule. like lol at people saying HE GOT OUT OF THE BACK OF THE ENDZONE like we need a rules analyst on this contested catch. DJ didn't argue. he knew what he did. -
DJ Moore should not have been penalized for helmet removal
SameDamnThing replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
this is nonsense. it was a penalty. he fuged up. this "well technically" bullshit has to go. he made a mistake. we lost the game. it will be a blessing in the long run because PJ Walker isn't taking this team to the playoffs. -
dude had a historically awesome day and people want to act like it's not noteworthy. I like d'onta a lot too, but I like CMC a lot also. you don't have to pick one or the other. you can enjoy good football no where you see it. that was a performance to match a lot of the great ones he did here like his 100/100 yard days. you just don't get it see it much.
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Not sure what people were expecting to get out of CMC with the bloat of his deal and his injury history the past few years. he's cheap in base salary this year, but the number goes back up big the year following. this is about draft capital and being able to move around a little if we end up picking outside the top 5 to load up and get our guy at QB or to move back into the 1st if there's a falling WR or TE that might be a game changer for us. this had to be done. CMC helps us win. we don't need to win right now. that's just not where we are.
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he's athletic and explosive, and most of the time it ends up being nothing. he's not good against the run or in pass coverage. if he's not piling up sacks, he's not contributing otherwise. let someone else pay what he's going to get for what they believe to be a big impact player. reddick was more explosive and productive last year than burns has ever been. if we can get a decent 1st for him, that would be huge. turn it into a franchise TE for our new QB or a WR to put with Moore. We need a pass catcher at the TE position because it's the quickest and easiest read and can help a young QB a lot. plus, we don't need anyone on the roster who is going to help us win right now.
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Official McAdoo is Doo Doo Thread...
SameDamnThing replied to KillerKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
look man.... the guy has a record of being awful. he worked under tom coughlin for his only real professional experience before going mom's spaghetti on his head coaching chance, and coughlin was a control freak who probably didn't let him call anything. out of the league for 3 years and then hired and fired after 1 season the two other places he has gone for bit parts. if you look over his entire career, he has never been internally promoted through the ranks. he has always applied for bigger jobs, never earned them, and when he gets them he can't keep them. he's using the best dual threat RB in league history and isn't throwing him the ball. DJ Moore has been virtually terrible OC proof with his production over his career grinding out his 1,100 yards every year but he has less than 100 this year through 3 games? -
Our last two first round picks, Icky and Horn.....BUSTS
SameDamnThing replied to GOAT's topic in Carolina Panthers
first game of the kid's career and he gives up 2 sacks, the only 2 times garrett touched our QB all day, and he's garbage. I have seen tackles have that bad of a series against him. that's the hardest game he'll have all season.