The truth....once D.G.left the Gmen....team started to decline

[Jmac]

Just to point this out to a few on here. After Dave left that team,it started a tailspin. I believe that his input with personal decisions really helped make them what they where.If this keeps up for them, the head coach might not make it through the season. We are lucky to have ths guy as the GM. His personal evaluation skills are top notch and he has begun to fix the cap issues. There is no doubt he will have the Panthers playing winning ball for many seasons to come. That would be something this team and the fans have never known before.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

They may be the worst team in the NFL. It has looked really, really bad this first game and throughout the preseason.

[Kelbin Venjamin]

This may make me sound silly but, I had no idea how much  good GM could affect a team is such a short time. I am really impressed with the work he has done. I am also glad that he has shown some patience with his evaluation of Ron Rivera. I really think that Ron (especially when he develops more of a mean streak, like Bellisuck) will be a great coach. Sometimes he strikes me as just a little too nice. He must insist that his offensive coordinator keeps up the heat until the end or at least until victory is assured. I admit that it may be easier said than done, however. But yeah Gettleman is and will be a huge part of the process which is turning our team into a powerhouse. Yes...powerhouse!!!

[JJman]

I just New York needs a new identity. Has nothing to do with who the old assistant GM was. As good as they've both been in the past, maybe it's time to move on from Manning and Coughlin. If they suck this year they can land one of Mariota, Winston, Hundley or Petty.

[Jmac]

I diagree.You can see the sharp drop off in talent on both sides of the ball.Isn't just identity...not enough talent anymore to be sucessfull.I do agree on the QB...looks lost and T.C. probably ready to hang it up also.

[PantherPhann89]

I somewhat agree about the Giants dropping off after Gettleman left but his leaving didn't make Eli suck.

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[Chaos]

True point in this thread, the Giants are awful, but lets face it, the entire NFC East is complete garbage (minus Eagles).  They have taken over the award that used to go to the NFC West.  It's looking like only the division winner will go to the playoffs, somewhere around 9-7.

[Jmac]

Once the talent started getting thin along the Oline and Eli started getting slammed, lost his confidence.Look what happened to Carr after getting body slammed in Houston for a few years.

[Paa Langfart]

I think the Giants sucking and our progress has plenty to do with g man.  The guy is a great talent evaluator.  With the rules of the NFL set up so that every team has the same purse to play with, you need to find diamonds in the rough in order to have success.  And g man is an ace at that job.

[Mr. Scot]

I don't know that you can rightly draw any kind of causal connection from this, but yeah, the toming is pretty funny

[Khaki Lackey]

Another interesting Gettleman fact: the more The Huddle whines about his decisions has proven to be a reliable indicator of how good they are. I never heard as much complaining about Hurney as I hear about Gettleman, because, like the average fan, Hurndog had no business running an NFL franchise.

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[BountyHunter]

I don't think G man leaving was the main cause of the Giant's collapse. But there's no doubt it was a contributing factor.

[propagandamachine]

Gmen was the brains behind all the defensive drafting and stocking up during the offseason with the giants. They just used to load up every off season - now guess who's bringing in defensive line free agents from South Africa if need be. If and god forbid hardy was not to play - we wouldn't even feel it.

Getts is that good.

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[cbully]

they are NOT hungry!