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89 Conference Call

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The Panthers are ready for cam to take over the team, and Smith would not have helped that cause out much. Cam and Steve weren't exactly friendly.

 

no one said anything like this prior to steve being cut. all i heard about was how chummy they were and how steve thought of cam as a little brother. i also remember everyone being excited about how he was mentoring lafell.

 

 

and as for everyone bashing his leadership or referring to him as a nuisance in the locker room: he was one of the leaders of a dominant 12-4 team last year.

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CRA Grand Master

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no one said anything like this prior to steve being cut. all i heard about was how chummy they were and how steve thought of cam as a little brother.

All you have to do is go back to the last losing season.....and the "vet" was running to the media making life pointlessly harder on the young QB.

So no....when we were winning basically every game in 2013 there weren't lots of complaints. Go back to 2012 and Steve was being Steve....making it about him and being a pain.

You never judge leadership when things are going great....when times got bad what was 89 like?

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All you have to do is go back to the last losing season.....and the "vet" was running to the media making life pointlessly harder on the young QB.

So no....when we were winning basically every game in 2013 there weren't lots of complaints. Go back to 2012 and Steve was being Steve

 

an aging vet nearing the end of his career was upset over losing.... who would have thought? he made one ill-advised comment about cam pouting, and it wasn't anything close to being a big deal.

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an aging vet nearing the end of his career was upset over losing.... who would have thought? he made one ill-advised comment about cam pouting, and it wasn't anything close to being a big deal.

Your just being an 89 apologist.

Pretty sure the league is full of aging vets whose teams aren't winning each season. Vets are suppose to lead.....not act like 89 often did.

Said it before last season began....the end was near unless 89 retired early. At some point his production wouldn't be enough for the issues he brings

And if you think that one comment was the only headache 89 created...

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There is one reason and one reason only that Smitty was cut. They did not want his option for the next two years at over $10M/year picked up automatically by keeping him this year. It was the right decision for the long run, even though it hurt us this year. Everybody getting pissed at Stew and D-Will about their cap hit now would be getting pissed at Smitty in 2 years for having a hit of over $10M and being out half the year and ineffective the other half of the year. Smitty didn't have this fire in him with us any more and needed a new "chip on his shoulder" (getting cut) for him to get it back. He would be killing us if we kept him for the 2 years after this year. 

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But all you acknowledge is his ability to technically catch a football and run routes....

And while yes he can do that....it was his presence in the lockerroom and interaction with the team that got him cut from here. You have to be able to acknowledge a pain in the rear diva make it about me WR who is merely just a good WR.....can hinder a young team trying to build around others

He didn't fit. He would have done more harm than good here....based on where we are and trying to go. He fits in Baltimore. Nothing wrong with that

 

I don't see that at all.

 

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All you have to do is go back to the last losing season.....and the "vet" was running to the media making life pointlessly harder on the young QB.

So no....when we were winning basically every game in 2013 there weren't lots of complaints. Go back to 2012 and Steve was being Steve....making it about him and being a pain.

You never judge leadership when things are going great....when times got bad what was 89 like?

 

just cant get past the "leadership" part. if that is how it was then he would not have been a leader.So how did the players feel about it? If he continued to be the leader then he continued to show leadership qualities.Something doesn't add up with your spin.

 

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just cant get past the "leadership" part. if that is how it was then he would not have been a leader.So how did the players feel about it? If he continued to be the leader then he continued to show leadership qualities.Something doesn't add up with your spin.

 

 

Maybe because anyone who disagreed with his leadership style got punched in the face.

 

John Gotti was a leader too.  Doesn't mean he had great leadership qualities.

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