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"Wide receiver is not a problem" [Phrase should be banned]

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I get so sick of seeing that phrase in the Huddle.  It is a problem, and every objective Huddler knows it.

 

As I looked at T.Y. Hilton destroy the Texans last night (but Andrew Luck sickeningly get nearly all the love)  I was like "Damn, if only we had that guy to take the top off of defenses like that. KB, Olsen and J-Co would wreak havoc." But then I came to my senses and thought about Rivera saying "That's not how we're built".  Then I thought about our shaky O-line, and I said, "Well, it's not like the almighty Luck (who made some very questionable throws, but got bailed out by luck) has the best of O-lines either."  Then I thought to myself and said (Yeah I know, I sure am talking to myself a lot...CRAZY!), "Well, Shula wouldn't know how to use them anyway."  But, wait...even Shula had sense enough to send Ted Ginn Jr. down the field sometimes (but not as much as I'd have liked).  So what's the problem?  I mean, we do have a Philly in the paddock, we just have to get him involved, right?  But we use him more like all the other possession receivers that we have.  Perhaps Philly is just not ready for the spotlight or can't get enough separation, or get into space, or is too slight, or maybe...this all comes back to Shula and/or the O-line.  Who the hell knows? But WR is still a problem.  We apparently don't have a guy---or at least a guy that Rivera and Shula trust at the moment---to take some pressure off the other guys and add that consistent vertical-threat dimension that makes the opposition respect and fear our big play ability. 

 

I understand that our receiving core is statistically better than last year, and that we surprisingly have the 10th ranked passing offense in the league (albeit with 37 being our long), but that still does not take away the problem of a lack of a legitimate threat to take it to the house.  Maybe Philly can play that role. And in a perfect world, Stephen Hill would be signed, secured and delivered to the game day roster.  But this isn't happening for some reason.  I mean, good grief, between the O-line's inconsistency (on the plays that they are inconsistently good) and Cam's escape-ability (and, yes, even banged up Pocket Cam) we should be built to get the ball down field in a hurry.  Cam can actually throw a mean deep ball.  On the days that our defense just can't get it going (like against the 3-4 so far) and we get behind, the security of a speed guy that at least half-way scares the defense would do wonders for our whole offense---not just the receiving corps. We could take advantage of those soft spots in a zone, or make people pay for leaving our big guy (KB) or our possession guys (everyone else) pay time and time again. 

 

So, for the sake of the football gods, stop saying that WR is not a problem.  It is a problem...one of possibly several. But we're going to have to develop that speed element in our passing game to be complete contenders.  

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Andrew Luck makes TY Hilton look better than he is. No disrespect to Hilton, he's solid, but Luck is unreal. The hate he gets on here is insane. 

 

Which is more extraordinary? A WR that puts up 224 yards, or a QB that puts up 370 yards (of which 224 were to one receiver)?  

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Wide reciever is not a problem.

Agreed. I see that speed guy as a luxury. We can win without him. We came back no TY Hilton against Chicago, so we can win when we are down. Would I love to improve at WR? Of course! But No, its IS NOT WHY we are losing. Give us an improved O-line and defense and we are set. Doubt many receivers can get 50 yards down field before our o-line craps out anyway. (Against 3-4)

*WR IS NOT THE PROBLEM*

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Andrew Luck makes TY Hilton look better than he is. No disrespect to Hilton, he's solid, but Luck is unreal. The hate he gets on here is insane. 

 

Yeah, I'm done dissing Luck.  The dude throws picks, granted.  But he is throwing a poo ton of TD's now, and yes he is better than Cam Newton RIGHT NOW.  

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Which is more extraordinary? A WR that puts up 224 yards, or a QB that puts up 370 yards (of which 224 were to one receiver)?  

 

 

It was a great performance, no doubt. His highest receiving yards before last night was 105. Still solid but it's not like he's putting up monster numbers every week. However, Luck is.

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I get so tired of hearing about how Andrew Luck inherited a bad team like they were the worst squad in the last 20 years or something.

 

The Colts tanked the poo out of the 2011 season in order to secure their chances at drafting Luck.

 

Irsay knew damn well that Andrew Luck was his only shot at success after sending Peyton off. Anyone who believes otherwise is simply lying to themselves. The Colts had a solid squad to start, but they were actually able to build through the draft during and after drafting Luck.

 

Luck is the real deal, but his GM has actually acquired him some talent. Our FO can't even draft a fugging starter on the OL.

 

Our WR situation isn't the best it could be, but it's acceptable. We need a real OL for our franchise QB. It's abysmal.

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When look threw a bad pass, they just praised his pocket presence. Didn't even comment on the poorly placed ball. (Check out a would be TD pass to one of his TEs, don't remember when it was)

 

When you lead the league is passing yards and passing TDs you're going to get that kind of praise.

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