Dave Gettleman's Head Coaches

[Dexterity]

Why extend Rivera?

Because Rivera went 12-4, won the division, and had a bye. He had the #2 ranked defense in the league. He did it all with a patchy roster that had no business doing any of that.

If he didn't extend Ron it could've caused resentment between Rivera and the front office. Then what happens if the team has another 10+ win season and wins the division again? Rivera would essentially be a free agent. What's stopping him from leaving the small market team that showed zero faith in him to potentially go somewhere like Chicago, San Fran, etc? Because he would've been at the top of the list of any team needing a coach, and he would be available.

Gettleman can still easily fire Rivera.

[Diehardpanther02]

To create the illusion of giving a head coach leeway and confidence, and not a lame duck season, while also evaluating said coach?

This. Actually makes alot of sense, if rivera had not been signed long term he might coach like his back is against the wall and get ballsy, sound familiar(see last season). Instead you get the calculated loss taker Ron in his conservative nature losing out and showing his true self. But this might be thinking way to far into this, he is still on contract and i would like to know what would happen with the leftover money and if it is treated the same as a player that is cut.

[heel31ok]

For those wondering what kind of head coach Dave Gettleman might be inclined to hire (should he be given the chance) here's a list of head coaches with whom Gettleman has been associated in his NFL career (and what he was doing with each team).

 

Marv Levy

 

Head Coach: Buffalo Bills, 1986-1993

Gettleman's Job: Scouting Intern (1986) College Scout (1987-1993)

 

Wade Phillips

 

Head Coach: Denver Broncos, 1994

Gettleman's Job: College Scout

 

Mike Shanahan

 

Head Coach: Denver Broncos, 1995-1997

Gettleman's Job: College Scout

 

Jim Fassel

 

Head Coach: New York Giants, 1998-2003

Gettleman's Job: College Scout (1998) Director of Pro Personnel (1999-2003)

 

Tom Coughlin

 

Head Coach: New York Giants, 2004-2012

Gettleman's Job: Director of Pro Personnel (2004-2011) Senior Pro Personnel Assistant (2012)

 

 

The General Managers for those teams were as follows...

 

Bill Polian (Bills, 1986-1992)

John Butler (Bills, 1993)

John Beake (Broncos, 1994-1997)

Ernie Accorsi (Giants, 1998-2006)

Jerry Reese (Giants, 2007-2012)

 

 

While we're at it, here are the starting quarterbacks for all those teams.

 

Jim Kelly (Bills, 1986-1993)*

John Elway (Broncos, 1994-1997)

Kent Graham (Giants, 1998)

Kerry Collins (Giants, 1998-2003)

Eli Manning (Giants, 2004-2012)

 

* Kelly's backup for the entire time Gettleman was with the Bills was current Chargers OC Frank Reich.

 

 

Some notable assistant coaches along the way...

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Ted Cottrell (Bills DL Coach, 1986-1989)

Ted Marchibroda (Bills QB Coach/OC, 1987-1991)

Jim Fassel (Broncos OC, 1994)

Gary Kubiak (Broncos QB Coach/OC, 1995-1997)

John Fox (Giants DC, 1998-2001)

Jim Skipper (Giants RB Coach, 1997-2001)

Sean Payton (Giants QB Coach/OC, 1999-2002)

Kevin Gilbride (Giants QB Coach/OC, 2004-2012)

Tm Lewis (Giants DC, 2004-2006)*

Bill Sheridan (Giants LB Coach/DC, 2005-2009)

Steve Spagnuolo (Giants DC, 2007-2008)

Perry Fewell (Giants DC, 2010-2012)

 

* Wonder how many folks here remember Tim Lewis.

 

And here are the seasons in which the team Gettleman's worked for went to the Super Bowl.

 

1990 Buffalo Bills (Lost, coached by Marv Levy)

1991 Buffalo Bills (Lost, also coached by Levy)

1997 Denver Broncos (Won, Coached by Mike Shanahan)

2000 New York Giants (Lost, coached by Jim Fassel)

2007 New York Giants (Won; coached by Tom Coughlin)

2011 New York Giants (Won; also coached by Coughlin)

 

 

NOTES:

 

Three of the five head coaches with whom Gettleman has worked all came from offensive backgrounds.  The only defensive coach he ever worked with was Wade Phillips, and that was for one year only (Phillips' final season in Denver).

 

Interestingly enough, Marv Levy was a Special Teams Coach. The only current NFL Head Coach with an ST background is John Harbaugh - who has a Super Bowl win on his resume' -  but there are a couple of potential candidates next season in Dave Toub and Brad Seely.

 

Also worth noting that all three of the Super Bowl winning teams Gettleman was part of had offensive coaches (Shanahan once, Coughlin twice).

 

What about systems, you ask? The Bills offenses were obviously all K-Gun (no huddle).  After that, Gettleman worked exclusively with West Coast coaches (Shanahan, Fassel) up until Tom Coughlin, who ran an Erhardt-Perkins.  Gettleman had never worked with a coach using a Coryell system until he joined the Panthers.

 

On the defensive side, the Bills teams Gettleman worked for all ran 3-4 defenses.  Every team he's worked for since then has run a 4-3.

 

 

CONCLUSION

 

Pretty easy to suggest that, based on history, Gettleman would probably want an offensive coach.  System wise, I'd speculate probably one who ran E-P (based on Coughlin's success) though WCO would be a definite option.

 

Interesting to note he's had previous connections with at least three possible candidates in Gary Kubiak and Kyle Shanahan (via his dad), both during his time with the Broncos.  Gettleman also would be well familiar with Frank Reich from his days backing up Jim Kelly.  Also as mentioned, Gettleman has previously worked - and seen success - with a Special Teams coach turned head coach, which could mean he might be willing to take a look at Dave Toub or Brad Seely.

 

So there ya go.

 

Here's hoping this all means something at year's end

 

the real question is would any of these guys hire G-man?

 

[Mr. Scot]

This. Actually makes alot of sense, if rivera had not been signed long term he might coach like his back is against the wall and get ballsy, sound familiar(see last season). Instead you get the calculated loss taker Ron in his conservative nature losing out and showing his true self. But this might be thinking way to far into this, he is still on contract and i would like to know what would happen with the leftover money and if it is treated the same as a player that is cut.

 

I have no idea why Rivera seems to have reverted to his old persona, but evidence definitely suggests that he has.

 

It's a shame, because up till now one of the best things about him was ability to learn from his old mistakes.

 

[Diehardpanther02]

I have no idea why Rivera seems to have reverted to his old persona, but evidence definitely suggests that he has.

It's a shame, because up till now one of the best things about him was ability to learn from his old mistakes.

Idk that it was he had learned from his mistakes or that if he didnt change he was out of a job. I think he honestly feels that the conservative way is the best, he calls his defense conservatively and definetly holds the offense back i just think its the coach that he is.

[*FreeFua*]

I have no idea why Rivera seems to have reverted to his old persona, but evidence definitely suggests that he has.

It's a shame, because up till now one of the best things about him was ability to learn from his old mistakes.

Rivera changed back to his stubborn ways before the end of last season. He punted at home against the Saints but was fortunate enough to get the ball back setting up the game winning drive.

He and Shula ran the ball 3 straight times in Atlanta then punted the ball and gave Ryan a last chance. Atlanta's drive was looking good until that miscommunication between the center and Ryan forcing the clock to just about run out.

In the playoffs Rivera did go for it on 4th and 1 at the goalline and Cam was stopped. They ran 5 plays in the redzone on this drive and ran all 5 times. It's obvious this staff doesn't trust Newton as well.

People fell in love with "Riverboat" Ron but it was strictly out of fear of losing his job that he was like this. As soon as they got back into a good position again, Rivera changed his tune. After 2.5 years of playing the game not to lose, you'd think he change. It's clear Rivera is way too stubborn and truly believes his way is the right way and isn't willing to adapt or take suggestions. I've never seen a coach directly responsible for so many losses before like Ron is.

[mbarbour21]

not one of the QBs listed are mobile or a threat to run .so, is DG aware that he will have to adjust his philosophies in accordance with the hand he has been currently dealt?or will he acquire another QB?because so much of the decision process behind hiring a new coach revolves around your QB,ecspecially with Cams unorthodox skill set.

I dont think much would have to change. If you get Cam some protection and some recievers, he can sling it. He has the ADDED ability to run. Thats not his only skill. Its extra, its not to be the gameplan though.

[Mr. Scot]

I think it's probably correct to believe that the coach we've seen every year but last year is who Rivera truly is.

[Woodie]

I think it's probably correct to believe that the coach we've seen every year but last year is who Rivera truly is.

 

Unfortunately, I think you're right.  I was excited when he was hired because I expected a more aggressive approach, but instead we got another conservative philosophy.  That's what worries me; if we let him go, I think JR likes conservative schemes and would only give Gettleman leeway to bring in more of the same.  I'm just not confident that he would sign off on a creative offensive guy like Clements...even though that is the type of guy Cam needs, IMO.  Hopefully Gettleman could sway him, but I'm not sure. 

 

On top of that, I worry that if he fires Rivera, he'll go cheap with our next HC since I doubt he'll want to eat the rest of Rivera's contract along with what a top candidate would cost.  I would expect another guy, like Rivera, that is just looking for anyone that will hire him rather than a hot candidate that knows they will get their shot and doesn't need to settle. 

[cgarsmoker]

Theres a pretty good chance Coughlin gets canned after the season. NY media was calling for his head last year. Gettleman may go for him.....I'm not sure how I feel about that if he did. Coughlin isn't horrible but he doesn't really excite me either.

[mc52beast]

Is it purely Ron's fault or should DG take some of the blame...

[Woodie]

Theres a pretty good chance Coughlin gets canned after the season. NY media was calling for his head last year. Gettleman may go for him.....I'm not sure how I feel about that if he did. Coughlin isn't horrible but he doesn't really excite me either.

 

I think Coughlin retires if he's canned.

 

[bandu]

I dont think much would have to change. If you get Cam some protection and some recievers, he can sling it. He has the ADDED ability to run. Thats not his only skill. Its extra, its not to be the gameplan though.

can you elaborate for me,exactly what your game plan might entail?

[Mr. Scot]

Good news for those who'd like a West Coast coach.  There could be an interesting OC option available if we go that route.

 

Seeing speculation now that Jay Gruden might be fired at season's end.  Heck, maybe that'd satisfy the 'I want Gruden' crowd too.

 

Before anyone asks, no he wouldn't be an option for head coach (and likely neither will his brother).

 

But OC would be a possibility.  Truthfully, even if Rivera isn't fired, he could still be an OC option if Shula is.