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Cam's Most Important Offseason Yet

WUnderhill

By WUnderhill,
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Yeah. You can dislike it all you want, but even NFL players being paid MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, etc. etc., have an easier time catching slower balls than faster ones. Throw the ball with the minimum velocity required for each specific situation to make catches easier: it's pretty simple conceptually, difficult in practice, but something the elite QBs are able to do at a reasonably proficient level. Cam needs to work on it.

 

If you want to see a continued high rate of drops throughout Cam's career just so you can blame everything on the receivers, then there's nothing worth saying to you.

 

 

And NFL QBs have an easier time (even the elite ones) when they are given 6.8 seconds to throw the ball as opposed to when their line only allows them 6.1 seconds...

 

Should the OL be blamed or "share responsibility" if Newton sails a ball over Olsen's head when he was only given 6.1 seconds as opposed to 6.8 seconds? Would the same Huddlers complaining about Newton throwing the ball "too" hard start complaining if Newton is not given the absolute ideal time (6.8 seconds) to get off the absolute ideal pass (one not thrown "too" hard)?

 

Methinks these huddlers would place 100% of the blame of Newton, and contend that he needed to throw Olsen an accurate ball given that everyone else did their jobs on that play. I would contend that the WR needed to catch ball given that everyone else did their jobs on that play. 

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There is no doubt that for this team to take that next step, Cam has got to get better in the areas you mentioned. However, without the proper coaching, it is pretty damn hard to progress by yourself. I have zero faith that Shula and Dorsey can fix these issues or progress Cam. There was a thread about 2 months ago where they posted an article about what Pep Hamilton and Clyde Christensen do for Luck. The article went into depth about how they have helped Luck identify coverages and what the defense is trying to do and how to attack it. There is none of that with our current coaches. We need somebody like that to not only help Cam identify what defenses are trying to do to him, but also help him with his footwork and mechanics.

could be true, or they could be coaching and Cam's not listening. Either way, it's up to Cam to progress. Not bashing. Just want him to be even better.

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could be true, or they could be coaching and Cam's not listening. Either way, it's up to Cam to progress. Not bashing. Just want him to be even better.

Cam needs to QUIT dropping that left shoulder whenever he passes.i am not sure if this starts with his feet or not,but it definitely causes him to overthrow his intended target.however,creating the proper scheme and acquiring the right tools for Cam is an entirely different story.
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And NFL QBs have an easier time (even the elite ones) when they are given 6.8 seconds to throw the ball as opposed to when their line only allows them 6.1 seconds...

 

Should the OL be blamed or "share responsibility" if Newton sails a ball over Olsen's head when he was only given 6.1 seconds as opposed to 6.8 seconds? Would the same Huddlers complaining about Newton throwing the ball "too" hard start complaining if Newton is not given the absolute ideal time (6.8 seconds) to get off the absolute ideal pass (one not thrown "too" hard)?

 

Methinks these huddlers would place 100% of the blame of Newton, and contend that he needed to throw Olsen an accurate ball given that everyone else did their jobs on that play. I would contend that the WR needed to catch ball given that everyone else did their jobs on that play. 

 

The OL has shared plenty of blame for some of Cam's problems. Where have you been?

 

Please read OP more carefully. I stated that each individual drop I would blame on the WR, but it's also ridiculous to look at the trend and say that Cam can't make it easier on them.

 

This really isn't as outrageous as you're making it out to be.

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The OL has shared plenty of blame for some of Cam's problems. Where have you been?

 

Please read OP more carefully. I stated that each individual drop I would blame on the WR, but it's also ridiculous to look at the trend and say that Cam can't make it easier on them.

 

This really isn't as outrageous as you're making it out to be.

 

In my Hypo, how much blame would you give the OL? The same amount you give to Newton for throwing the ball "too hard"?

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So what you're saying is we need better secondary players?

I'm saying Tre Boston played the first one horrible

2nd one....refs let them play. Seattle played it harder and got away with it.

Neither throw was impressive.

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