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leinhart - "every qb tampers with the ball, except one"

nosuchthingasapanther

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Also, teams and players are allowed to break in balls all week and tailor them to a QB. Perfectly legal. All teams do that.

Carolina could decide Cam doesn't like the shine on balls a certain way and work it off all week. Then present these balls on gameday.

Issue is doctoring what they refs give you back to play with. NFL has no issue with tailoring the balls to a QB

That is why teams don't play with the same ball

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how is this different from the 'pine tar' incident that initially cost the Royals a game?  having too much pine tar on your bat is a moronic rule, but it's a rule and the Spankees waited to pull it out until it mattered.  In the pine tar game, the officials made a measurement, and then acted accordingly.

 

With deflate gate, they refused to even deal with it.  If you're going to have rules, enforce the rules.  If you're not going to, then get rid of the damn rule.  Ignoring a request, or ignoring the proven case just makes them look weak.

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That's the point.

They inspected them pre game and at half.....something occured inbetween. But only to NE balls. Not Indy ones

 

Two things wrong in this post. The Indy balls haven't been tested according to anyone, so we don't know if they were deflated or not 2 days later. Secondly, it's not just the ref's job to inspect pre game and at the half. It's their job to not put balls in the field of play that don't qualify. It's in the rule book. They have to get a ball from the opposing team if a team's balls don't meet specifications.

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Two things wrong in this post. The Indy balls haven't been tested according to anyone, so we don't know if they were deflated or not 2 days later. Secondly, it's not just the ref's job to inspect pre game and at the half. It's their job to not put balls in the field of play that don't qualify. It's in the rule book. They have to get a ball from the opposing team if a team's balls don't meet specifications.

What I have read is both teams balls were checked. All 12 for Indy were okay

Also I don't think refs in game are overly thinking about ball psi. In there minds it was already checked. Plus in cold weather games refs are wearing gloves....they aren't going to notice it. They may going forward implement something

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in the end, i think the final decision is going to reflect this sentiment.

the patriots have slaughtered the colts 40+ to whatever the previous 2 meetings between the two.

balls inflated to regulation weren't going to change what happened last sunday.

The issue is not that they would have won no matter what, but that they purposefully violated the rules. 

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Nobody gave a poo about Cam's visor clips, but there was still a rule regulating it.

 

That's a very good point.  He paid the fine for something as trivial, but it was a punishment and is on record.  Cam's visor clip did not have anything to do with altering a play, but altering the ball does.

 

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