4 Things Greg Hardy Must Do to Remain a Panther

[CoastalCat]

Sam Mills fan has a great question:  Why is this board anti-Greg Hardy? Is it about women?  Is it about the cap?  I am not against Greg Hardy, but I am not for paying him what he is worth either.  This team turned things around without him, and I feel that his absence, not helped by Frank Alexander, was a big reason we struggled.  I mean, at the beginning of the season, our run D was poor.   So we sat watching our team lose 8 of 12 while he was cashing checks at $750K per week.  That has to piss you off as a fan.  That was our cap money--our PSLs, the reason we pay $5 for a soft pretzel.  Hardy had a great year, but the sacks came in bunches vs. teams with scrub LTs for the most part.  When he went against quality, he disappeared.  I was ready to let him go before the arrest.  A financial decision.  You cannot have 2 DEs eating up 30% of the cap.  Common sense.

 

How did this team turn it around?  I think we value character and it showed.  While Frank "Lotus smoker" Alexander and Greg "I am dating a crack ***** and I like it" Hardy were letting us down, there was a core of developing talent stepping up.  Character is a huge factor when a 20-year old kid takes over at RG in the NFL and dominates.  Do we think Andrew Norwell at LG, an undrafted beast, would have been ready to play if he were out partying with 50 assault rifles and a slut on weekends?  He got the chance and he was ready.  Character.  What about his ex-college teammate, Philly Brown? Tre Boston? Bene Benwikere?  Think about Josh Norman, who has continued getting better while spending most of his career in Ron's dog house and sitting on the bench.  Yes, he does dumb things, but he never quit.  Character-made obvious through coachability and work ethic, turned this team around while Greg pushed aside his weaponry and watched from his couch.

 

At DE, Horton suddenly was not fighting for a roster spot, he was starting.  He got better as the season progressed.  Ealy turned up the developmental time table for 4-3 DEs and started flashing by season end.  In fact, he found ways of getting to the QB from the DT spot.  Addison found ways to pressure the QB. 

 

Voth describes things that would suggest high character--something you need to be on this team.  Let's see if Greg learned anything from his ordeal, or if his primary interest is still money.

 

That's a fantastic speech, but it still all comes down to perception. The difference between another limited character guy who just played in the super bowl and Greg Hardy is an abuse accusation. Skittles is getting his extension. 

[AviationMX]

I missed him but also am pissed that he put the team in jeopardy, especially in light of TD's speech- which may have an effect on Hardy now (just maybe)

 

if he takes a reduction in $$ to right his wrong and gets it...welcome back. If he takes the money and splits- then he was what we thought he was and screw him and better have his head on swivel if we ever see him again. 

 

He has had time to reflect on our dime...so we will see.

[propagandamachine]

You guys are smoking something - New England will sign him in an instant when you're here thinking you're sooooo special a team that Hardy gets on his knees and apologizes.

If you can work out a discount great : it not - pay the man : talent like Hardy doesn't grow on trees and by God Id hate to have him in a place like Ravens where they loooooooove bullies lol

New England won't hesitate to sign him because they and not the media run the team : they don't care whether their running back grabs their crotch they focus on winning .

That gold digging tramp wanted nothing but to destroy Hardy on her way out - expect to see more and more especially with this No More campaign.

First casualty your stupidity himself : warren sap - I could swear that escort demanded a bribe or she would call the police and fug up his career.

Anyway - don't make the mistake of thinking you're that special and other teams won't notice you have a competent talent evaluation team.

New England and the Ravens won't hesitate to gut your talent and walk to the super bowl with it

Ask Lafell , smith , that 5th round running back , Casey walker - all Carolinas hard work

[AviationMX]

You guys are smoking something - New England will sign him in an instant when you're here thinking you're sooooo special a team that Hardy gets on his knees and apologizes.

If you can work out a discount great : it not - pay the man : talent like Hardy doesn't grow on trees and by God Id hate to have him in a place like Ravens where they loooooooove bullies lol

New England won't hesitate to sign him because they and not the media run the team : they don't care whether their running back grabs their crotch they focus on winning .

That gold digging tramp wanted nothing but to destroy Hardy on her way out - expect to see more and more especially with this No More campaign.

First casualty your stupidity himself : warren sap - I could swear that escort demanded a bribe or she would call the police and fug up his career.

Anyway - don't make the mistake of thinking you're that special and other teams won't notice you have a competent talent evaluation team.

New England and the Ravens won't hesitate to gut your talent and walk to the super bowl with it

Ask Lafell , smith , that 5th round running back , Casey walker - all Carolinas hard work

 

Just to clarify:

 

the crotch deal is SEA wasn't it? and as far as Lafell and others- it was more of a cap issue than anything else...Smith - I agree with you but also it was time for a change in the locker room...

 

but there is a character issue to consider...both NE and Panthers have had murders and I think we can agree that an issue that the NFL and teams need to improve on....

[Davidson Deac II]

Sam Mills fan has a great question:  Why is this board anti-Greg Hardy?

 

Very few of us are anti Greg Hardy.  Its not anti Greg Hardy to say that he probably will not be back even if found innocent.  I just don't think the front office will be willing to risk continuing to pay him what he thinks he deserves.  And I can't really blame them.  And I don't blame him for signing elsewhere for big money. 

 

Of course, if he is found guilty, then there might be a lot of anti Greg Hardy sentiment. 

[Mr. Scot]

Pretty much zero chance of all that happening.

You guys know it's not even a lock that he's acquitted, right?

Yeah, it could happen, but the jury's not gonna be loaded with Panther homers, so it's far from a slam dunk.

[MHS831]

That's a fantastic speech, but it still all comes down to perception. The difference between another limited character guy who just played in the super bowl and Greg Hardy is an abuse accusation. Skittles is getting his extension. 

 

Not merely a "speech" (it was written) when you value character--some can't even recognize it or attribute the role it actually plays in success.  The point was to make connections for the people who cannot see its value.  It was evident here, for those who value character and have ever played the game, it was obvious. 

 

If you think Seattle's contracts are beyond criticism, just say so.  I think they are being stupid. 

 

I don't think character is put at a premium in Seattle. I think it is here. 

 

[the butch]

Give 12 million dollars back? Did Voth mean that literally? Iceberg's chance in hell of that happening.

[TheRed]

Kind of ironic how sour Jeremy is on the Hardy subject considering how the mods here practically kissed his ass when he made an account.

 

Oh how things change.

[Jeremy Igo]

Kind of ironic how sour Jeremy is on the Hardy subject considering how the mods here practically kissed his ass when he made an account.

Oh how things change.

Lol @ sour.

Embellish more.

[MHS831]

Very few of us are anti Greg Hardy.  Its not anti Greg Hardy to say that he probably will not be back even if found innocent.  I just don't think the front office will be willing to risk continuing to pay him what he thinks he deserves.  And I can't really blame them.  And I don't blame him for signing elsewhere for big money. 

 

That is it.  I think many on this board are ready to move on because we know that Hardy is a high risk.  I think it is a great question because there are many reasons for it.

 

Right or wrong, Hardy has been branded by the nation as a woman abuser.  He slipped up in the spotlight, and it will cost him.  The team that signs him will pay more than his salary--they have a star player--a face of the franchise--who was condemned by the public. You are buying a tarnished distraction as much as a player.  The legal decision means little compared to the business side.  Richardson is a family man, and he sells tickets to women and children too.

 

[TheRed]

Lol @ sour.

Embellish more.

 

Before the Ray Rice fiasco came out I thought Hardy had a somewhat decent chance to redeem himself. Obviously that changed.

 

I don't know if Greg is guilty or not, doesn't really matter if he is or isn't at this point.

 

I'm not saying you are literally "hating" on him like some others have mentioned here, but I'm just gonna tell you straight up because I like you and this place. You might want to ease up some. It's a bit hypocritical considering you personally rolled out the red carpet for him.

[pantherj]

1.) Be found innocent.

 

2.) Undergo a frontal lobotomy that doesn't damage his ability to play football.

 

3.) Agree to live locked in JRs basement when not playing football.

 

4.) Agree to go on an apology tour where he speaks out about violence against woman.

 

If he can do all this then Hardy will be back.

[MHS831]

Lol @ sour.

Embellish more.

 

You see, if a player posts here and we enjoy it, we are hypocrites if we do not, from that point forward, applaud everything he does in life, Mkay?

 

There is no gray area in life, Jeremy.  No adjustments, no changes of direction as it changes.  For us to understand it, we must put everything into one box. 

 

Seriously, some people here are more interested in bashing others' opinions than those they fail to rationally develop on their own.