Todd Gurley to visit with the Panthers

[Bj-Monster23]

Oh I freaking love this.

[jfo89]

He's the pick if he's there at 25. But he won't be.

[LinvilleGorge]

I love me some McCoy but the Murrary contract was still dumb. He doesn't do anything overly exceptional and you're likely to only get 2 good years out of him before you consider replacing him again. Stewart is better by the eye test in my opinion. 

 

I agree that the Murray contract was dumb, primarily because of his injury issues (he's only played 16 games in one season and has missed a total of 11 games in 4 seasons).  But, the reality is that he has nearly matched Stewart's 7 season career production in only 4 seasons.  His per game production has been on pace to get to 1000 yards in every one of his seasons.  Stewart has only been on pace for 1000 yards in one season - the season he actually got there.  Murray is also a bigger factor in the passing game having surpassed Stewart's career receiving yardage in 3 fewer seasons.

 

Again, I like Stewart, but Murray is just better.  That's not a knock on Stewart seeing that Murray was the best RB in the NFL last season.

[MichaelNewtonII]

Let's just tank for Leonard fournette next yr

[GoobyPls]

Whose to say next year class is as deep as this one is. Gurley in an early round or not, we gotta take one this year.

Next years class is just as good, the two Bama backs, the two razorbacks, the kid from Pitt and the OSU RB, that's from top of my head there are probably more.

[LinvilleGorge]

Next years class is just as good, the two Bama backs, the two razorbacks, the kid from Pitt and the OSU RB, that's from top of my head there are probably more.

 

I don't trust them.  That Bama OL is always dominant.  Any decent RB looks like a monster there.

[L-TownCat]

I don't trust them.  That Bama OL is always dominant.  Any decent RB looks like a monster there.

 

Exactly the same goes for Bama QB's too.  They get to stand back there look all around and wait for an athlete to run faster than the other guy then throw as far as they can.

[Professor Queso]

ACL tears aren't what they used to be guys. Not saying the recovery isn't difficult but with today's medical technology and the extensive rehab, some players end up coming back stronger. I.E. Thomas Davis

[LinvilleGorge]

Exactly the same goes for Bama QB's too.  They get to stand back there look all around and wait for an athlete to run faster than the other guy then throw as far as they can.

 

You can say the same for USC skill position players.  Bust after bust after bust after bust.

[C47]

You can say the same for USC skill position players.  Bust after bust after bust after bust.

 

I guess there's no need to evaluate players on their individual ability then. Same goes for the Bama RB too.

[LinvilleGorge]

I guess there's no need to evaluate players on their individual ability then. Same goes for the Bama RB too.

 

Did I say that?

 

All I'm saying is that when you're assessing that individual ability, you also have to factor in the surrounding talent.  There's an absurd history of USC producing busts at the skill positions.

[WOW!!]

Talented player devalued position. .

[Everfrost]

What if we traded out of the first round and got a early second rounder and then took Gurley? I'd be okay with that especially if we got another second rounder next year out of it 

 

 

This ,

[C47]

Did I say that?

 

All I'm saying is that when you're assessing that individual ability, you also have to factor in the surrounding talent.  There's an absurd history of USC producing busts at the skill positions.

 

There's an absurd history of them producing phenomenal players too. But history doesn't mean much in terms of evaluating an individual player. If you can't look past the jersey you probably shouldn't be making statements about a players ability (not specifically saying you either). It's just an ignorant argument that's often used to dismiss players from whatever school year after year.