Why Picking up Jonathan Martin was a Waste of Time...

[O-Ther]

Miami=workplace harassment. Anyone able to work well with others when those others threaten to rape your mom and sister? Some lines you just don't cross with co-workers. I wouldn't have my heart in working there, either.

 

SF=Harbaugh's boy. Turns out Harbaugh was on the hot seat even before the season started. Willing to bet that Harbaugh leaving is the reason all his boys are leaving, retiring, or getting released.

[uncfan888]

The guy was a 23 year old rookie @LT on a Dolphins team playing out the string against 2012 first team All-Pro Aldon Smith and a 49ers team on their way to the Super Bowl. Doesn't have a D@MN thing to do with him being a part of the two deep at either tackle position as a 26 year old on the 2015 Carolina Panthers for a bargain basement price.

Easy there, fella. I'm on board for us picking him up. I was just pointing out that that was a lot of miscues from only two games

[Matthias]

Miami=workplace harassment. Anyone able to work well with others when those others threaten to rape your mom and sister? Some lines you just don't cross with co-workers. I wouldn't have my heart in working there, either.

 

SF=Harbaugh's boy. Turns out Harbaugh was on the hot seat even before the season started. Willing to bet that Harbaugh leaving is the reason all his boys are leaving, retiring, or getting released.

 

Yeah I can see your point with Harbaugh.

 

All that said, I just don't want to have the Byron Bell/Nate Chandler year again.  We are hoping that Oher (who probably is penciled in as a starter) and Martin can become what people thought they would be.  We can't afford to waste this kind of time.  What if the Panthers decide to pass up on say, Ereck Flowers, because they believe Oher and Martin will be good enough pieces they've brought in?  That is the problems signings like these can cause.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

I don't think people realize just how bad Martin is.

 

by the end of preseason you'll see topics about how we should bring back bell.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Better than Bell

 

 

He's better than Bell.

 

 

False.

 

He's much worse.

[Eazy-E]

So you are saying you prefer David foucault?

[updownsigma]

Someone could make a video of Bell like that and it would be ~30 minutes long.

[Matthias]

So you are saying you prefer David foucault?

 

No, I just want a guy who can compete.  I know what I'm getting with Martin.

[VerticalThreat]

The problem with this is Rivera and Gettleman get into this "hopeful" state with OTs we know for a fact can't do the job. We know Martin sucks. While it may seem like we got a deal with his contract, in actuality we will insert him in the starting line up, and Cam will proceed to get killed on just about every snap. So when we cut Martin the following year, Cam would have gained a 100 years worth of his career in the same year. Is this how we want to treat our franchise QB?

I'm not so sure it's "hopeful" as it is that they have try to keep a positive front and no slay the guys in the roster in the media. At the same time, they're not interested in overpaying when they believe they can find the guy in the draft. However, if a guy they like (because not all OTs are created equal) isn't available or there's a better pick they're going to stay the course and go with what their research tells them is the best player ALL factors considered.

GMan has said multiple times it's a process. It's not just the upcoming season it's Cam's entire career or Luke's entire career. They're trying to set our franchise players up for success that lasts. Can't do that being irrational. Anytime we can bring in any player who was selected in the 2nd round, we should. If nothing else, it's depth or competition: 2 things that separate elite organizations from what we've been for the better part of 20 years, mediocre.

[LUUUUUKE]

Any questions?

About your cute lil video, since you only show him as a Dolphin. I believe it was during this time that he was Incognito's #itch. When you're treated like a #itch, you play like a #itch.

Those days are over for him.

I hope

[TheRed]

Let's hope just being better than Byron Bell isn't the standard our front office is following like our fans.

[KendrickPanther]

Link to three year old tape. Thanks, you wasted my time.

[Matthias]

I'm not so sure it's "hopeful" as it is that they have try to keep a positive front and no slay the guys in the roster in the media. At the same time, they're not interested in overpaying when they believe they can find the guy in the draft. However, if a guy they like (because not all OTs are created equal) isn't available or there's a better pick they're going to stay the course and go with what their research tells them is the best player ALL factors considered.

GMan has said multiple times it's a process. It's not just the upcoming season it's Cam's entire career or Luke's entire career. They're trying to set our franchise players up for success that lasts. Can't do that being irrational. Anytime we can bring in any player who was selected in the 2nd round, we should. If nothing else, it's depth or competition: 2 things that separate elite organizations from what we've been for the better part of 20 years, mediocre.

 

I hear you, but we got to get Cam some adequate protection soon.  Of course depending on what Jake Long plans on doing, we need to be looking his direction.  In spite of his injury history.  That is the kind of move I'm waiting for.

[Cary Kollins]

Let's hope just being better than Byron Bell isn't the standard our front office is following like our fans.

The standard of upgrading positions.