Joe Thomas is on the trading block, Matt Miller says we should make a call

[TheRed]

1 minute ago, thomas96 said:

Jared Allen will either be cut after this year or take a pay cut. There's no guaranteed money on his deal and no matter how well he plays this year we won't be paying him that much either of the next two years.

See above post, particularly when accounting for the context of the conversation regarding moving on from Charles Johnson.

Who replaces these guys?

You can't have your cake, and eat it too.

[t96]

Just now, TheRed said:

See above post, particularly when accounting for the context of the conversation regarding moving on from Charles Johnson.

Who replaces these guys?

You can't have your cake, and eat it too.

DG looks at it in the long term. Allen will not be worth what he'll be making if kept. You don't keep players for significantly more than they're worth just because you don't have a replacement ready. It's extremely simple.

[ecu88]

He is about to turn 31 and he is expensive which hurts resigning others.  Our o-line is solid and has nice chemistry, don't fug that up.  Norwell and Oher have a strong connection.  So my resounding answer is NO!  

[TheRed]

1 minute ago, thomas96 said:

DG looks at it in the long term. Allen will not be worth what he'll be making if kept. You don't keep players for significantly more than they're worth just because you don't have a replacement ready. It's extremely simple.

Neither of us truly know Gettleman's plans, so there isn't much use going in circles over this.

What we do know is that we currently have two very good players in Norman, and Short due contracts coming up, and they are top priorities.

[Mr. Scot]

As good as Thomas is, contracts like that are what got us into the mess that we're only now digging out of.

Also, the Browns...oy.

[beastson]

That's a lot of money for a 31 year old tackle

[CPF4LIFE]

18 minutes ago, ItsNotGonnaBeAlright said:

Regardless of how good an available player is, I don't see DG making a move unless he feels a need (see: Allen trade, Delaire pick-up when we got thin at DE). The OL has held up reasonably well and I don't think there's a sense of urgency to improve it. 

So this move might be good in a lot of ways, but my gut feeling is that it won't happen.

And this is what separates us from teams who actually do win Championships

[PhillyB]

of course i'd flip out joyously if we pulled the trigger, but i'm not a big fan of the idea. cap hit + age + trade cost divided by oher's production and the chemistry and effectiveness of our current offensive line = meh

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

So his actual cap number for whoever he goes to would be:

2015: $4.4mil

2016: $8.3 mil

2017: $8.8 mil

2018: $8.8 mil

Not the worst ever....

[ctrcat]

Food for thought-GMan is a genius but almost drafted DJ Humphries, by his own admission even.  Thomas is the surest of sure things.  So the question here really is-do you trust GMan's eye for drafting a DE as we would have to do when the inevitable cut of CJ/Jared comes, or drafting a OT to supplement/replace Oher.  

Put me in the camp that wants the best LT in the game on a 6-0 team.  

And as I've always said the only guarantees on this team going forward are Cam and Luke.  We'll be fine.

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

3 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

And this is what separates us from teams who actually do win Championships

Ok, let me rephrase: the OL is good, needs no improvement, and the team has other priorities to deal with in order to maintain current success en route to its first championship.

[CPF4LIFE]

6 minutes ago, ItsNotGonnaBeAlright said:

Ok, let me rephrase: the OL is good, needs no improvement, and the team has other priorities to deal with in order to maintain current success en route to its first championship.

So the O line went from being the absolute worst last year to "good" in just  6 games this year? We still got 10 more games this season, all i see right now is good interior play. Passing up on chances to improve the team because you are comfortable with recent success after long time of terrible play is the point i was trying to make and something i wish would change about this team. Especially fans that get comfortable with one game of success and then prop their feet up. This is not a direct response to Joe Thomas, just in general

[ctrcat]

If Thomas was a cancer I'd worry about chemistry but by all indications he's the opposite.  Not to mention he'd probably be recharged going to a winner.  Not to mention our OT unit is an injury away from disaster.  Not to mention we've never been 6-0 and the chances to win it all are real-now.

[Toomers]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

As good as Thomas is, contracts like that are what got us into the mess that we're only now digging out of.

Also, the Browns...oy.

    How is a contract with zero dead money similar to the crap deals Hurney gave out? We are already seeing that this DEF can survive without CJ. Cutting him gives an extra 11M. Other is a 4.5M hit to keep next year. Thomas is 8.3M. Not a huge difference, except for Thomas is a huge upgrade. Cutting Harper gives anothe 3.5M. There will be plenty tag/sign Norman, and Short. Allen will not be here unless it's a cheap deal. And it's a lot easier to find a DE in the draft than a LT. Picking at 20 or later, any stud LT is long gone. Then you have to hope they don't bust like more than half of 1st round LTs are prone to doing. I'd give them our late 1st for high-level LT play for a good portion of Cam's prime. And say thank you.