Miami Hurricanes Interested in Shula

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

massive logical fallacy here in case it hasn't been pointed out yet

seems the lack of logic extends to both sides of the argument.

[UpstatePanther]

43 minutes ago, Bronn said:

oh I do enjoy it, don't get me wrong...

I just think the polarizing Shula stuff around here is unwarranted.

He isn't great. He isn't the worst possible OC ever.

But to attribute our entire offensive success to him? naaaahhhhhhhh

This is all I was saying. And yet people wanted to flame me for it. One even resorted to personal attack. 

I hear both sides of this. And honestly I'm not part of the crowd that wants Shula's head anymore. He has some hand in what thus offense is doing, and at this point I value the continuity over the 3 extra points per game we might get with another coordinator. Especially since this offense is performing well overall and is close to having all its necessary pieces.

I'm willing too admit I'm wrong, for those of you flaming me. I can't argue with 8-0 and if it earns Shula a head coaching job somewhere, then good for him. 

[EightyNine]

24 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

massive logical fallacy here in case it hasn't been pointed out yet

I agree with you that what I said does not tell the whole story.. I probably shouldn't have said that because i could see how people would take me less seriously because of that.. but I still truly believe that the style of offense Shula runs is great for this team and allows us to win more games.. In 2013, Shula's first year as OC, it was like all of sudden we realized that the more conservative we were on offense, the better chance we had of winning..  And there is nothing wrong with that.. Its so much more fun than losing..  To be honest, Tom Brady played a conservative style of offense and relied on great defense when he won his first two championships.. And later, he developed into what you see today.. Maybe this is the beginning of that for us?

I have been plenty critical of Shula over the years...but i always think to myself..think of all of the excuses that Cam get's.. bad oline, has to deal with byron bell, a rookie wr being the top target, injuries, all  of which are extremely valid excuses...how do i give Cam a pass and not Shula??  This year, I am willing to say that he has done an AWESOME job.. I love what we having going for us on offense and i think we have shown that when we are clicking, we can be a great offense.

[EightyNine]

11 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Whether it's a Shula play or not is irrelevant. Cam could make Ken Dorsey look like a genius with his capabilities too. It's hard for me to comprehend why you're not getting this. Chud mentored, and left his play book in Mike's hands. What exactly has Shula done? I'll tell you what's done. He's finally doing his fugging job. And you want me to give him a pat on the back for it? No, he continues his employment with The Panthers. That's all he gets.

I think the people who do their job well deserve a pat on the back and some love from the fan base.  Seems fair to me.  I'm not asking you to do anything, I'm just giving my opinion.

[Cj72]

All they really need is a lifesize cutout of a person that half the people on here  can blame when a bad play is called. We all know cam draws all the good plays in the dirt during the huddle. How else do you explain the mn loss last year? Frozen ground equals no dirt to draw in.......

[RumHam]

6 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins PhD said:

 

I mean, if Shula were to leave, we would have to hire someone from outside the organization as our new OC right?  I mean, Ken Dorsey (QBs coach), Ricky Proel (WRs coach), and Jim Skipper (RBs coach) wouldn't really be viable candidates for the position.  We do not have an assistant OC position on staff.

 

Would really be interesting to see this play out.  Hue Jackson, Mike Solari, David Lee, Tom Cable..... Some names we could look at for OC. 

Slow down now.  This is just crappy speculation......

I remember talks of Hue Jackson years ago. If he is still available, that should tell you something.

[MadHatter]

2 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Whether it's a Shula play or not is irrelevant. Cam could make Ken Dorsey look like a genius with his capabilities too. It's hard for me to comprehend why you're not getting this. Chud mentored, and left his play book in Mike's hands. What exactly has Shula done? I'll tell you what's done. He's finally doing his fugging job. And you want me to give him a pat on the back for it? No, he continues his employment with The Panthers. That's all he gets.

I still see the ridiculous "It's Shula's fault when things go wrong.....and because of Cam when they go right" crowd is still out in force.

[Marguide]

1 hour ago, RumHam said:

I remember talks of Hue Jackson years ago. If he is still available, that should tell you something.

Uh, he's Cincy's OC, and doing a fine job.

[Marguide]

Those of you vehemently complaining about Shula should just go ahead and admit that you don't like him, and no matter what he does going forward, you never will.

Time to be honest with yourselves.

[FootballMaestro]

9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Looks like you can squash this particular story though...

Shula not interested in Miami job

Reason: He doesn't want to be a college coach.  he wants to stay in the NFL.

(link)

I know this was posted 9 hrs ago.

But apparently, Shula's NO FOOL!! LOL

He knows he's got a good gig in Carolina right now, and "he ain't leaving fo no college job". He wants to leave this team for another top flight QB/situation.

[Thal]

Pep Hamilton, so he can stick it to Luck

[DaveThePanther2008]

I have been on and off the Shula bandwagon but I have to admit he has something good going on with Cam. 

I think the biggest thing is he has let loose and allowed Cam to make decisions based on what he sees.  Many teams have tired to stop him but because he has a choice at the LOS it makes our offense very potent. 

Props to Shula and growing with his offense.  That said, Is that style of offense going to be something you want in college football?  Most teams are pinball games with high scoring machines.   Shula has a very good thing going here that he has nurtured since Cam was a rookie.  IMO his style will fail in the NFL because he'll never have a defense like this one to help him.   Each possession is more critical in college because your good teams score at will and if you get behind it makes things difficult.

If I were Shula I would say Thanks but No Thanks.

[TheNewStandard]

19 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins PhD said:

I can imagine our OC position would be really attractive to FA coaches this offseason.  We have a franchise QB, solid O-line, probowl TE, horde of capable RBs and the return of Kelvin Benjamin would just leave you salivating.

Are you saying it would be a breeze to find a new offensive coach if Shula was to leave? 

Are you saying that opposing teams just want Shula because we have good players and that Shula is the reason those players are so good?

Or are you saying that teams would like to disrupt our team chemistry by chopping the head off the snake (so to speak,) so that  the Panthers Might take a step back because they have to re-adjust to a new OC?

I said it before and I'll say it again. Cam has control of this offense, not Shula...and I'd even go so far as to saying our OL coach and Prohel are more important to our current success than is Shula.

[teeray]

57 minutes ago, TheNewStandard said:

 

I said it before and I'll say it again. Cam has control of this offense, not Shula...and I'd even go so far as to saying our OL coach and Prohel are more important to our current success than is Shula.

Than Shula has done an AMAZING job getting Cam to this point that he can run the offense, and has also been amazing getting him prepared week in and week out to know what plays to run when.

I have mostly been supportive of Shula, but this paragraph of "Newton controlling the offense" has convinced me more than ever what a good job Shula has done.

It takes a heck of a coach to get a young QB to that point.  Wow.

I just hope when we eventually have a bad game you put criticism where it is due.  Cam Newton.  After all he is the OC now.