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Don't look for a big move to replace Josh Norman


Jeremy Igo
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We run a basic zone defense that does not necessarily need great corners to function at a high rate. This is the reason why Gman offered Josh $11 million and not the $16 million he was asking for. $11 million is how much Gman thought Josh was worth. Yes this move weakens our team in the short run but with the tremendous cap savings, it sets us up very nicely for the future.

 

 

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Don't get me wrong, I was disappointed we couldn't come to compromise in negotiations and figure something out. I tell you I was shocked we let Josh go. This was a brass balls move by Gman that tells everyone, I will do what is best for the long term future of my team.

We've won without Steve Smith, we've won without DeAngelo Williams, we've won without Greg Hardy, we've won without KB, and now we will win without Josh Norman.

 

 

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Too many good depth addition CBs in this draft to reach for a 2nd-3rd round CB in the 1st.  Gettleman will still go best player available whether that's DLine, WR, Tackle, or Secondary.   In the 3rd-5th round look for guys like Harlan Miller, Rashard Robinson, Ryan Smith, DeAndre Elliot ( had to look him up from Colorado State : official meeting with us), Deiondre Hall, etc.  There are some great value in these guys in mid rounds.  1st 2-3 picks need to be BPA.

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1 hour ago, Jeremy Igo said:

 

He isn't a first rounder on the Panthers radar. If he was selected it would be a reach over guys they like in the first round. 

 

Pipe down or you are deleted, junior. 

The hand strikes ...... And gives a flower.

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3 hours ago, Servant of Cthululelei said:

Nobody has mentioned him in awhile, but isn't Charles Tillman still technically on the team and not yet retired?  I mean I imagine his ACL tear being so late in the year means he wouldn't be ready week 1, but he'd probably be good to go partway through the season, yes?

His contract was up, no longer on the roster. I would seriously doubt any interest in his services.  

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8 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

His contract was up, no longer on the roster. I would seriously doubt any interest in his services.  

Not to mention that he won't realistically be ready to play until like week 8 or so given the timing of his ACL surgery.

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35 minutes ago, Rags said:

Yo I go I feel this is the perfect time to ask, what's the teems feeling on Alexander for.Clemson? Some reports have been popping up about apparent attitude problems, so do we feel strongly about him one way or the other.

If Alexander's ego is like 10 times bigger than Norman's. If Gettleman was willing to just pull the tag off Josh and let him go then it's probably a pretty safe assumption that we will not be drafting Alexander.

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I like Bene, but he got burned like toast more than a few times last year. He's talented, but there are going to be growing pains.

I'm not going to worry yet. But after witnessing Cason play corner for us, I'm not just gonna throw on the Panthers shades and think everything is going to be gravy either.

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2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

I like Bene, but he got burned like toast more than a few times last year. He's talented, but there are going to be growing pains.

 

As a nickel, yeah. Totally different position with more responsibility. I don't remember many miscues on the way outside.

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2 hours ago, nctarheel0619 said:

You do know Fuller is predicted to go in the first right? 

Actually, in the 14 mock drafts I did at fanspeak, using 8 different boards (with priority given to NFL, CBS & Draftek boards), Fuller wasn't picked once in the 1st.  He was picked 71% of the time in the 2nd and 29% of the time in the 3rd,

But for us to pick him, we'd probably have to grab him in the 1st or trade up in the 2nd, because he was only available to us at pick #62 29% of the time (4 of 14 drafts) and never available to us at #93.

Of course, that's depending on the accuracy of the boards & mocks at fanspeak, and also all the drafts I did were before the Eagles trade yesterday, so that could shake things up.

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