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Mike Florio thinks Luck should sign for a % of salary cap

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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Mother Grabber said:

Luck isn't house, he's an asset who is capable of doing things that only a few people in the world can do. this gives him leverage to make demands that a normal person (house) couldn't. just because no one has ever made a salary cap based contract before doesn't mean he can't negotiate to get one. it's entirely possible, because the colts need him a lot more than he needs the colts.

Same principle applies in that in both scenarios, one party (the buyer) is being asked to carry all of the risk.  I don't think you'll ever see an NFL player sign a contract that includes both a cut of the salary cap AND huge guaranteed money upfront.  The owner of any team that gave a player that type of contract would be ostracized by the other owners.  Collusion happens.

Many of us have said that it's just a matter of time before elite QB contracts hit a breaking point and IF a deal like this was to get signed, I think that would be the breaking point.  Right now, it's very difficult to compete for a Super Bowl in the NFL without an elite QB.  If contracts like that became the norm, it would become very difficult to compete for a Super Bowl in the NFL WITH an elite QB.

The one upsmanship wouldn't stop.  Right now, the ever growing salary cap allows for it, but if it was a percentage?  That guy got 16%, I want 17%.  That guy got 17%, I want 18%.  The road to that breaking point would get fast tracked.

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18 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Same principle applies in that in both scenarios, one party (the buyer) is being asked to carry all of the risk.  I don't think you'll ever see an NFL player sign a contract that includes both a cut of the salary cap AND huge guaranteed money upfront.  The owner of any team that gave a player that type of contract would be ostracized by the other owners.  Collusion happens.

Many of us have said that it's just a matter of time before elite QB contracts hit a breaking point and IF a deal like this was to get signed, I think that would be the breaking point.  Right now, it's very difficult to compete for a Super Bowl in the NFL without an elite QB.  If contracts like that became the norm, it would become very difficult to compete for a Super Bowl in the NFL WITH an elite QB.

The one upsmanship wouldn't stop.  Right now, the ever growing salary cap allows for it, but if it was a percentage?  That guy got 16%, I want 17%.  That guy got 17%, I want 18%.  The road to that breaking point would get fast tracked.

I don't really have a problem with elite QB contracts.

I am, however, annoyed as all get out when average QBs like Tony Romo and Matt Stafford get paid elite QB contracts.

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Teams (read: GMs) won't go for it unless that percentage rises and falls according to a performance-based rate schedule (think the US progressive tax structure). And there's no way in hell they'd go for that. Horrible precedent. Idk about this. It has me thinking though. COULD work, but I foresee a long fight. 

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20 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm fully prepared to sit back and watch just how badly Ryan Grigson is going to screw this up.

(after which Irsay will probably give him a raise)

I can see then Sam Bradford immediately demanding more money and getting it.  While I'm like :-/

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3 hours ago, Dick the Butcher said:

Teams (read: GMs) won't go for it unless that percentage rises and falls according to a performance-based rate schedule (think the US progressive tax structure). And there's no way in hell they'd go for that. Horrible precedent. Idk about this. It has me thinking though. COULD work, but I foresee a long fight. 

Not just the owners, but at some point the NFLPA would get involved too. 99%+ of their membership would suffer from this type of contract structure. There's only a handful of elite QBs who would benefit. I wouldn't be surprised if there's something in the next CBA that outlaws them if agents really start pushing for them. The NFLPA will use it as a bargaining chip to get something they want, but it'll be a fairly weak bargaining chip because it's honestly a mutually beneficial proposal. 

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